Watch out for this Marine Surveyor...
07-20-2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris
The missed leaking fuel tank aside I would like to talk about the tow charge. Why am I hearing about to many seemingly routine tows ending up be charged as a salvage and costing thousands of dollars?
Now a leaking fuel tank is a salvage? What if the oil leaked out of your engine into the bilge and you needed a tow......whould that be a salvage now too?
Now a leaking fuel tank is a salvage? What if the oil leaked out of your engine into the bilge and you needed a tow......whould that be a salvage now too?
07-20-2009, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jrat
No I have had the boat ten years and yes they considered it salvage.
07-20-2009, 08:05 PM
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I was not informed about salvage until we were brought in to the marina, and I did not insist on staying on the boat, I'm not a retard... I want to live...I would have gotten off the boat
07-20-2009, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jrat
I was not informed about salvage until we were brought in to the marina, and I did not insist on staying on the boat, I'm not a retard... I want to live...I would have gotten off the boat
Good luck
07-20-2009, 08:14 PM
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I'll tell you what. If I called for a tow and was lead to believe it was going to be a standard tow then once we reached the dock that they were charging me 8 grand+ for a salvage they better be ready for confrontation. No way in hell I would pay that.
That friggin tow charge will far excede the repair of the boat. Tell the tow company to go F themselves.
That friggin tow charge will far excede the repair of the boat. Tell the tow company to go F themselves.
07-20-2009, 08:20 PM
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Unclear to me why the tow bill is so high, was their a
hazardous charge because of the fuel or something? That amount is totally unreasonable. Did you agree to that amount before the tow started?
I don't know that boat but unless you can actually see the tank I do not know how he could have determined its condition. Can't pressure test a tank full of fuel. You do state it was in plain view, if that is the case, I would be on my way to small claims court for the tow charge, insurance survey or not.
Glad you are safe.
hazardous charge because of the fuel or something? That amount is totally unreasonable. Did you agree to that amount before the tow started?
I don't know that boat but unless you can actually see the tank I do not know how he could have determined its condition. Can't pressure test a tank full of fuel. You do state it was in plain view, if that is the case, I would be on my way to small claims court for the tow charge, insurance survey or not.
Glad you are safe.
07-20-2009, 08:33 PM
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Typically the service agreement is signed before the service begins, I needed help once and they ran my card on the spot so I knew what it was going to cost.
07-20-2009, 08:33 PM
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Thanks to all who have replied with a posotive outlook, I appreciate it, and will probably take the tow company to court, they had my credit card before they even hooked the boat up, and the told me the rate was 250.00 hr. shure surprised me when the bill came to 8,400.00 thanks again to all of you for your suggestions.
07-20-2009, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris
I'll tell you what. If I called for a tow and was lead to believe it was going to be a standard tow then once we reached the dock that they were charging me 8 grand+ for a salvage they better be ready for confrontation. No way in hell I would pay that.
That friggin tow charge will far excede the repair of the boat. Tell the tow company to go F themselves.
That friggin tow charge will far excede the repair of the boat. Tell the tow company to go F themselves.
07-20-2009, 08:39 PM
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Rock and a hard place.
Your insurance company holds a gun to your head to pay the guy to tell you that you need to pay a guy to fix your boat so you can pay the insurance company more money. Right?
Insurance survey for my firm is different from a purchase survey in three ways. Well maybe four.
1) no sea trial.
2) I don't dwell upon cosmetic issues as one would for pre-purchase. I only consider or mention cosmetics as to how they pertain to the current ACV of the boat.
3) My focus is upon structure and safety. I want to advise an underwriter if the boat is going to break, burn or sink. Is it an acceptable risk or not. Thats it.
Oh yeah and it costs a whopping, economy stalling, I'm getting so friggen rich I'm gonna buy a new Southport........ 2$ a foot less.
My hit lists on insurance jobs are usually under 10 points unless diligent neglect has been applied. This would be 10 points that damn well better be taken care of.
Pre purchase lists can easily hit 30 points or better with much of it being regular boat stuff.
You cannot stick your head in a bilge that is holding liquid gas and not take notice. Either it wasn't leaking at survey or he should be beaten to death with a salvage bill and/or a copy of Chapman's.
I wish you the very best in your quest to battle the towing company. Unfortunately the Salvage and Admiralty laws were written the times of wooden ships, iron men and pirates. The laws were written to favor the salvers and so the odds are with the house as they say.
Did you get the original invoice on legal letter head? That is my favorite feel good touch applied by some the local operators. friggen pirates.
Your insurance company holds a gun to your head to pay the guy to tell you that you need to pay a guy to fix your boat so you can pay the insurance company more money. Right?
Insurance survey for my firm is different from a purchase survey in three ways. Well maybe four.
1) no sea trial.
2) I don't dwell upon cosmetic issues as one would for pre-purchase. I only consider or mention cosmetics as to how they pertain to the current ACV of the boat.
3) My focus is upon structure and safety. I want to advise an underwriter if the boat is going to break, burn or sink. Is it an acceptable risk or not. Thats it.
Oh yeah and it costs a whopping, economy stalling, I'm getting so friggen rich I'm gonna buy a new Southport........ 2$ a foot less.
My hit lists on insurance jobs are usually under 10 points unless diligent neglect has been applied. This would be 10 points that damn well better be taken care of.
Pre purchase lists can easily hit 30 points or better with much of it being regular boat stuff.
You cannot stick your head in a bilge that is holding liquid gas and not take notice. Either it wasn't leaking at survey or he should be beaten to death with a salvage bill and/or a copy of Chapman's.
I wish you the very best in your quest to battle the towing company. Unfortunately the Salvage and Admiralty laws were written the times of wooden ships, iron men and pirates. The laws were written to favor the salvers and so the odds are with the house as they say.
Did you get the original invoice on legal letter head? That is my favorite feel good touch applied by some the local operators. friggen pirates.
07-20-2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jrat
No offense taken, just hope you don't go through what we have and still have a good attitude at the end of the day...
FOUR WORDS Come to mind:
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07-20-2009, 08:42 PM
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Did you get a contract saying 250/hr? That is reasonable. Take the tow guy to Dtown.
07-20-2009, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleCrownNC
Did you get a contract saying 250/hr? That is reasonable. Take the tow guy to Dtown.
