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Old 05-17-2009, 10:30 AM   #41
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Please show me some sort of evidence that bleach damages gel coat. I hear this all the time yet all of these products contain bleach or some sort of solvent. In fact, starbright contains alcohol which also does bad things to your skin and eyes and I would suspect does a good job of drying gel coat.
http://www.starbrite.com/msdssheets/...ds-7-25-06.pdf
If you guys insist on paying top dollar for "Marine Grade" bathroom cleaning products that have been around for years, the people who make them thank you. I clean mine with an effective mixture of bleach, water, and simple green. Oxiclean also works great.
My boat is 6 years old now and I defy anyone to find find a 6 year old Florida boat that shines better.
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Old 05-17-2009, 10:41 AM   #43
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If using bleach makes you happy, keep using it.
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I am emptying my In Box as quick as I can - it is 100% full, so hang in there. But if you are just now requesting a free sample and have not already done so, don't. I just explained how I am giving away 35 instead of the original 12 samples. This offer is CLOSED.
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Old 05-17-2009, 10:56 AM   #45
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Just finished rinsing off some starbright deck cleaner. The nonskid wasn't too bad after a day trip and cleaned right up. Whatever the product leaves behind.. PTEF or whatever, it seems the deck doesn't get as dirty. Dirt doesn't seem to grind in the NS as bad. JMO.
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:12 AM   #46
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Thanks for the input. The PTEF polymers provide a barrier to dirt, stains, schmutz, etc.
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:14 AM   #47
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again, all who responded prior to 12;17pm today will get the sample. Some of you didn't provide a shipping address even though that was pretty clear. You will need to do so because the UPS guy doesn't know where you live.

This offer is CLOSED.

I look forward to seeing any feedback, Out of 35, I'll be happy to see 3.
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:16 PM   #48
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:46 PM   #49
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3 guesses who makes the Attwood products you see at Wal Mart....
I had that thought.

The question is, is it the same product? Same strength? Just less expensive because it's sold at Walmart?

As for the bottles, today I took an almost full bottle from home to the marina because the boat stored at home sold. There was a nearly empty bottle at the marina. I started to combine them, but then thought I would be better off making each half full. That way, if I dropped one ............
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Please show me some sort of evidence that bleach damages gel coat. I hear this all the time yet all of these products contain bleach or some sort of solvent. In fact, starbright contains alcohol which also does bad things to your skin and eyes and I would suspect does a good job of drying gel coat.
http://www.starbrite.com/msdssheets/...ds-7-25-06.pdf
If you guys insist on paying top dollar for "Marine Grade" bathroom cleaning products that have been around for years, the people who make them thank you. I clean mine with an effective mixture of bleach, water, and simple green. Oxiclean also works great.
My boat is 6 years old now and I defy anyone to find find a 6 year old Florida boat that shines better.
You have to be really carefull what you mix with bleach. Many products, when mixed with chlorine, produce a toxic gas.

As I posted above, bleach does not clean. It will sanitize and whiten organic stains. It will kill mold and mildew. If you have, for example, coal dust on your non-skid, bleach will do no better than plain water. Simple Green and bleach will do no better than Simple Green alone.

The Simple Green will clean just fine, but in my experience, it's not as good on textured surfaces as Starbrite non skid deck cleaner. Your results may vary.
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I found that most stains are related to mold and bleach mix with some soap works well.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:37 PM   #52
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I did not have good luck with Starbrite on anything more than very light dirt that would come up with a brushing anyhow.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:37 PM   #53
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50/50 Bleach & Water will not damage anything. It will not affect gel coat at all, it works great. I go to the dollar store and buy a big bottle of hair shampoo, fill the bucket up with water give a good splash of shampoo then mix in 2 cups of bleach. Rinse deck, then scrub the deck with this mixture let sit 10 min or so come back and rinse off. Best I have found
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What can you tell us about the non skid cleaner and wax? If for example I am cleaning the gunnel non skid do I have to worry about run down on the hull and stripping the wax? Thanks
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I found that most stains are related to mold and bleach mix with some soap works well.
Stains, yes. Dirt, grime, bleach will have no effect. My marina is a couple hundred yards from a four lane bridge. Grime from the bridge traffic settles on the boats. Bleach has no effect on this.
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What can you tell us about the non skid cleaner and wax? If for example I am cleaning the gunnel non skid do I have to worry about run down on the hull and stripping the wax? Thanks
Mike

This is kinda my gripe with soft scrub. No matter how hard I try, I can't wash that chaulky residue off my hull when I do my Gunnel's with SoftScrub. It drives me crazy. I can only imagine that this residue is getting on everything, its just that I can see it on the hull.
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I'll try a bottle and give a non biased opinion.
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I think Bill just threw a brick through his monitor!
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Woody wax pine wash. Great on no skid and kills / prevents mildew.
Bleach is bad. Keep it environmentally safe.
Washing in the street or ramp, it goes back into our fishing grounds and reefs.
Plenty of safe cleaners out there. Every little bit helps.
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can I get a bottle of starbirte to try
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