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Old 02-26-2009, 06:05 PM
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Default 1995 Proline 251 or 1987 IMP 22 Sportfish - which to buy?

I am looking at two boats for sale and would appreciate any feedback to help with my decision:

1995 Proline 251 WA Cuddy (25ft) with 225hp Merc Outboard (250 hrs). Average condition. Bait tank. No electronics. Not much else. Does not need any repair.

1987 IMP 22 Sportfish WA Cuddy (22ft) with a new (67 hrs) Mercruiser 350 mag (300hp) and new Bravo 3 outdrive. Boat comes with Radar tower, 16 mile radar, Eisenglass, electric downriggers, outriggers, fishfinder, GPS, autopilot, trim tabs, bait tank, & 15hp kicker. Boat hull is in good condition needing only minor cosmetic repairs to interior wood trim & misc.

I have heard the IMP is a solid boat and the power of the new engine and outdrive and all the included accessories make it attractive. The Proline has a reputation as a good entry level boat and is larger. Proline is $2000 more than IMP.

Which would you choose and why?
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The additional size of the Proline-are you really going to use it on an average fishing trip? In other words, is most of the size dedicated to the cabin?

How much of the motorbox intrudes into the fishing space on the IMP?

Will the boat be kept on a lift, trailer, or in the water?

Who will be with you on most trips, and what will their needs be?

Lot's of questions, lot's of opinions...
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Originally Posted by LocalShark View Post
I am looking at two boats for sale and would appreciate any feedback to help with my decision:

1995 Proline 251 WA Cuddy (25ft) with 225hp Merc Outboard (250 hrs). Average condition. Bait tank. No electronics. Not much else. Does not need any repair.

1987 IMP 22 Sportfish WA Cuddy (22ft) with a new (67 hrs) Mercruiser 350 mag (300hp) and new Bravo 3 outdrive. Boat comes with Radar tower, 16 mile radar, Eisenglass, electric downriggers, outriggers, fishfinder, GPS, autopilot, trim tabs, bait tank, & 15hp kicker. Boat hull is in good condition needing only minor cosmetic repairs to interior wood trim & misc.

I have heard the IMP is a solid boat and the power of the new engine and outdrive and all the included accessories make it attractive. The Proline has a reputation as a good entry level boat and is larger. Proline is $2000 more than IMP.

Which would you choose and why?

Proline for me all the way. I've had my share of I/O's not for me anymore!
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OK. Thanks for your reply. Both boats will live on trailers. I usually fish with one or two others, but, I would like the largest boat I can safely launch by myself from the trailer. Cabin is for wife & 5 year old kid. I will fish mostly inshore kelp beds but would like to have 20 mile or better offshore range. Engine cover protrusion is a consideration on the stern of IMP, but, it has a deep deck and the side rails are high enough to be over my knees, so it is a fair trade off to me. Other 20-21 ft boats I have looked at had side rails that hit me right in the knees which is no good. I'm 6'2". I have owned both inboard and outboard boats and have not developed a preference except I have some mechanic skills from working on hot rod chevy cars that transfers to inboards. Fuel cost is a consideration. Looking for opinion on quality of each boat. Don't want to buy a poorly made boat.
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Many others have sworn off I/O's. I have not heard all the reasons why. I'm not afraid of the I/O mechanically. The problem I see is that everything is packed so tightly in the engine compartment that it looks like you would need to pull the engine to get many of the accessory parts off for repair which equals more $$$. My guess is alot more $$$
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Originally Posted by LocalShark View Post
Many others have sworn off I/O's. I have not heard all the reasons why. I'm not afraid of the I/O mechanically. The problem I see is that everything is packed so tightly in the engine compartment that it looks like you would need to pull the engine to get many of the accessory parts off for repair which equals more $$$. My guess is alot more $$$
You can always hire a small monkey and teach him to get underneath that motor...

BTW, I work for Proline. You know where my vote lies. Any questions, let me know.
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I looked at the Proline 201 and the cockpit rails are too low for me so I ruled it out and went up to the 25 ft. But I don't want to go too big. Does the 231 have deeper cockpit deck/rails than the 201? The 251 rails are over my knees which I liked.

Are there any monkeys in Florida?
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The Silver River that runs into Silver Springs, outside Ocala. Also Monkey Island in the middle of the Homosassa river. Naturally occurring? No. Monkeys? Yes.

Many times with 20' or so boats, builders will make larger models by simply cutting the hull and deck molds, add 2' to them, and, viola, you have a larger model with minimal tooling costs. But to go up 4' means usually a change in beam and that is a far more difficult undertaking. Once you get into the 25' range, you start talking sea-keeping ability, offshore performance, the like. Hence she has to be built a little differently considering the conditions she'll likely face.

My opinion? Get the 251. Just make sure the motor is up to snuff.
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I am a fan of the Proline 251.The one you are looking at has a motor bracket?Anyway,if the proline surveys out,that is a better boat over the long run and with a young one,that exta room will pay for itself.
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IMO - The Proline for sure.

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Pro-line. I always liked the layout of the 251. While I have never been on one, I always noticed the models a big cockpit, enclosed head, and nice freeboard.

You will notice little to no difference in trailering the two. I load and unload a 26'4" hull myself with no problems
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Originally Posted by LocalShark View Post
I am looking at two boats for sale and would appreciate any feedback to help with my decision:

1995 Proline 251 WA Cuddy (25ft) with 225hp Merc Outboard (250 hrs). Average condition. Bait tank. No electronics. Not much else. Does not need any repair.

1987 IMP 22 Sportfish WA Cuddy (22ft) with a new (67 hrs) Mercruiser 350 mag (300hp) and new Bravo 3 outdrive. Boat comes with Radar tower, 16 mile radar, Eisenglass, electric downriggers, outriggers, fishfinder, GPS, autopilot, trim tabs, bait tank, & 15hp kicker. Boat hull is in good condition needing only minor cosmetic repairs to interior wood trim & misc.

I have heard the IMP is a solid boat and the power of the new engine and outdrive and all the included accessories make it attractive. The Proline has a reputation as a good entry level boat and is larger. Proline is $2000 more than IMP.

Which would you choose and why?
Naturally, I'm biased.
Our 1995 models were wood free in construction.
The "251" was 27'4" pulpit to stern, then two feet of bracket. Offers allot more than would be thought of a boat we called 25'.
I tried to attach specs for you, but the pages were too large for the system to accept.
If you wish, call me, or E, with a fax # and I'll fax the info to you.
After today though, I'm MIA for a few.
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If there is no cost issue here youll find that as your child gets older you will not regret the bigger boat. I found that with both my kids that on every trip a friend or two must come along, so the proline is a better choice.
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go proline.
i own a 1996 240 sport which is the identical hull but in a center console version.
lots of deck space for fishing , high freeboard and a safe comfortable feeling when offshore. the 250 merc is a strong motor(mine had a 225) but have it checked out.
i repowered mine a year ago with an etec when it needed a lower unit. it had about 900 hrs.
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I am looking at two boats for sale and would appreciate any feedback to help with my decision:

1995 Proline 251 WA Cuddy (25ft) with 225hp Merc Outboard (250 hrs).
So your talking a single 225 on a 251 WA ?
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my 225 merc pushed us along at 38-40 mph loaded or 45 mph light.
it's not underpowered .
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Another vote for the proline 8 years and 3 feet for an additional 2 grand is the better buy. The IMP does sound like it is ready to go with all the electronics and enclosure but those things can be added on to the proline for pretty short $$. I own a 22' WA but spend most of my time and prefur to fish on my buddy's 25'WA the difference in the amount of deck space, beam, storage and cockpit space between them is huge. The other thing to consider is fuel economy and fuel capasity. Those should be compared as well. Not sure about the gas IO fuel burn but i'll bet the single outboard on the bigger boat is comparable.

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The info I wished to give you yesterday, Friday, I was unable to send, it was too volumous.
I'm traveling. I'll be at the plant briefly on Monday and will re attemt to get info off to you.
As to the single 225, no it's not underpowered.
The info I'll have for you will contain performance reports.
We have not built the hull for years, I miss it.
Great hull.
Lots of "reach". Something over 33' prop to pulpit.
I'll get you the info, it'll maybe help you with your decision.
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OK thanks for all the input.
I passed on the IMP and the 25 ft Proline turned out to be a 231 not a 251. Wife says boat must have a head so I am still looking. I do like the 251's much more now and think that is the way I will go.
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I owned a 1996 251wa. Make sure you takea ride in one on a rough day. If you are going to stay inshore or on rivers it is probably going to be OK for you. Offshore you will have to pick your days as it rides like a flat rock and is Very Wet.

The boat is laid out well although if you are like me and over 6' the cabin is to small for sleeping. I could never lay out straight in there.

The fish boxes are not well insulated and are in the floor and when you get water over the bow (and you will) they fill up and melt all your ice ruining your fish.

The sides are high and safe and the walk around is OK for getting up front.

250 osprey always gets pissed at me for knocking this boat but I owned one for a Very Looong time and could write a large book on my problems with it. My opinion (and thats all it is) is based on personal experience.

Take it on a sea trail! Make sure it is in the conditions you will be using the boat in.

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