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Old 02-08-2009, 07:31 PM
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Looking at shootgun for the boat to protect and dispatch large sharks. What types of firearms do you use? I have the opp. to buy a 12gauge or a 20gauge double barrel. Please tell me what you guys do.
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This is a bit of a tricky proposition, look at your gun laws, concealment and carry laws, etc.... all that aside, I would opt for Remington's Marine 12ga. It is steel, has anti corrosion elements, and will take down any shark you come across. FWIW, I have never had to use a shotgun on a shark so far...
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Have you thought about the bang sticks that divers use . . . just an idea . . .
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Remington and Mossberg make marine shotguns. Just be sure you stow it safely and it's legal where you are.
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I personally have a Mossberg 12 guage (Pump), it has been used around boats for over 25 years and still functions well. The Remington has some features which some like better. Do some googling and read the reviews from the gun people.

If room is a problem, you may want to consider a folding stock/pistol grip (depending on your local laws). I would not buy a blued double barrel shotgun for a boat. I would definately want a 12 guage, not a 20. If large fish are an issue, you might consider slugs.
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I have both of them.

Unfortunately, I got the Mossberg first. I let price become the buying motivator.

Out of frustration with it, I got the Remington. 100% happy now.

I can't give the Mossberg away.

NEVER again...
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Ruger 10-22. Stainless! Shot many sharks, ect. We are not telling what's under the bunk!
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Call me stupid but WTF do you need a gun for to shoot a shark??? I've never been held up by a shark. A shark has never broken into my home or tried to steal my boat. What are you going to do, shoot the shark on board? Won't you blow a hole in your boat? WTF are you bringing sharks on board for anyway? No one eats sharks unless your Asian.
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No one eats sharks unless your ASIAN?,
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I'm buying a stainless Ruger Mini-30 for my boat next week... Always just carried a handgun before, but I prefer the extra potential "reach" of the 7.62 round versus a .45...... Although I never really even considered shooting a shark with it, I guess it would probably be pretty effective at that..............
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You might want to find out if shooting any fish is legal where you are, and what a blast next to the boat will do. You might need a shower and a towel. The best thing is to either cut it loose like any other fish you aren't going to eat, or fight it down the conventional way, gaff it and throw it in the box like the other fish, if you are going to eat it.
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edsmith03 - 2/8/2009 8:09 PM

I'm buying a stainless Ruger Mini-30 for my boat next week... Always just carried a handgun before, but I prefer the extra potential "reach" of the 7.62 round versus a .45...... Although I never really even considered shooting a shark with it, I guess it would probably be pretty effective at that..............
A mini-30 for a boat gun, now that is funny. Good luck with that if you ever need it for real trouble. Let's see boat (or two) bobbing around in the water. Like I said good luck with that..........

I'll take a shotgun loaded with bb's or buckshot every time.

LEO's are carrying 12 gauges loaded with graphite pellets to take out, and seize up engines - sounds like a grand idea.
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Mossberg makes a nice JIC ( just in case) shotgun. It's a 12 ga. 500 series with a pistol grip. Also comes in a nice water tight container with some other survival crap. I would always get the mariner model of either the 500, 590 or rem 870. Skip the auto shotguns, too much to fail. However, without training, and brains, I would not recomend the average joe use any of the above. Most people I know can barely be safe with them on a range, let alone on a slippery bobbing around boat. And as for the 7.62 dude...that's why they invented harpoons.. No need to sniper your BFT.
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raftguy-1 - 2/8/2009 10:06 PM

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I'm buying a stainless Ruger Mini-30 for my boat next week... Always just carried a handgun before, but I prefer the extra potential "reach" of the 7.62 round versus a .45...... Although I never really even considered shooting a shark with it, I guess it would probably be pretty effective at that..............
A mini-30 for a boat gun, now that is funny. Good luck with that if you ever need it for real trouble. Let's see boat (or two) bobbing around in the water. Like I said good luck with that..........

I'll take a shotgun loaded with bb's or buckshot every time.

LEO's are carrying 12 gauges loaded with graphite pellets to take out, and seize up engines - sounds like a grand idea.


If you read what he wrote, he said "reach" and yes it is possible hit hit something when you have 30 round magazines. You dont have to be dead accurate if you are being threatened or chased by another boat, just point and empty the magazine. I would take an AK-47 any day over anything it has the range and is very reliable. Just spray it down with wd-40 and throw it in the head. I carry a Bersa .380 thunder in my boat bag any time I take the boat out. Its small enough to conceal and carries 15 rounds. I spend a lot of time on the water at night and my type boat is very high on the theft list for smuggling Cubans. Not to mention the boat ramp at night can sometimes be full of the local drunk rift raft. I do like shotguns also and a slug can be accurate close to 300 yds, or at least accurate enough to hit a boat and thats all you need to do. Better get your shiznit before hommie changes the gun laws.
If I were gonna get a shotgun it would definatly be this gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gESLOmz-4sc

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A crack barrel single shot is all you need. They are reliable and inexpensive.
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At 30 yards you should be able to throw a rock and hit another boat......
There's no surpassing a 12 guage inside 100 yards......keeps a mix of slugs and buckshot. Most moderm
slugs will group at a couple of inches at 100 yards with good sights. Pay attention to the CWP laws....
for example.....in some states you can have a CWP which means yo can carry a weapon concealed on your person.
But if transporting in a vehicle you still MUST abide by the laws governing that conveyance....like having the weapon
unloaded and stored separately from the ammo. There could easily be separate rules governing boats.....especially
if you live someplace where the waterway you're on is a border betwen states with very different laws.

And no matter how upright and law abiding you are....if you run across the wrong LEO/prosecutor everything leaves your
span of control and you've broken gun laws == evil.
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I've got a recoil-reducing folding stock on my 870 that makes a huge difference in the kick, and allows it to store better.I've also got a recoil-reducing pistol grip.
They were made by a company call Knoxx Industries but I think they were bought by Blackhawk! You can shoot slugs all day long.....

www.blackhawk.com/catalog/stocks,10.htm
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TwentyFourSeven - 2/9/2009 6:15 AM

If you read what he wrote, he said "reach" and yes it is possible hit hit something when you have 30 round magazines. You dont have to be dead accurate if you are being threatened or chased by another boat, just point and empty the magazine. I would take an AK-47 any day over anything it has the range and is very reliable. Just spray it down with wd-40 and throw it in the head. I carry a Bersa .380 thunder in my boat bag any time I take the boat out. Its small enough to conceal and carries 15 rounds. I spend a lot of time on the water at night and my type boat is very high on the theft list for smuggling Cubans. Not to mention the boat ramp at night can sometimes be full of the local drunk rift raft.
I did read what he wrote. I thought it was pretty humorous, that is what caused me to respond. I did read "reach." I highly doubt there is a need to "reach" out and touch some one. Besides that would be impossible on a bobbing boat or two.

I also thought the shark kill was funny, especially, the scattering shot out of a 12 guage that close to your our hull visualization I was getting. I appreciate you little AK-47 story too. Ammo requirements would be interesting.

However, I believe virtually all confrontations will be more up close and personal, a few yards away, etc: someone trying to board, someone trying to pull along side, etc. I'm sure the LEO's will agree. Thus the shotgun: a console, an engine, and god forbid a guy. The gun should be the last choice.

I do like you thoughts on a Bersa .380, very handy for CCW.
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BTW, I've always wondered what would happen if you fired a 12 gauge shot gun (birdshot) shell from a 12 gauge flare gun (not plastic).http://www.espionage-store.com/12gauge.html

Anyone know? Someone try it and report back :-)

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/12-gauge-shotgun-shell-in-flare-gun/4081165081

Looks like someone tried this...
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No one has answered this question? Yea...why would anyone want to shoot a shark?? How many do you keep that you have to carry a gun or rifle?

packfan - 2/8/2009 7:37 PM

Call me stupid but WTF do you need a gun for to shoot a shark??? I've never been held up by a shark. A shark has never broken into my home or tried to steal my boat. What are you going to do, shoot the shark on board? Won't you blow a hole in your boat? WTF are you bringing sharks on board for anyway? No one eats sharks unless your Asian.

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