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Old 12-08-2008, 04:55 PM
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A relocation to NJ may be in the cards for me. Exact location is TBD, but it's likely to be 15-20 miles west of Newark. Current boat is a Dusky 233 center console (oversized 23' with bracket & 225HP) which I have exclusively used in the Chesapeake Bay.

I know very little about NJ. If there are any THTers from NJ, could I please get your thoughts on one or more of the following questions I have?

- How far does one need to go offshore to get onto good fish?

- Is a beefy 23' with single outboard suitable for "normal" days or do I need to upgrade to something bigger?

- What are the 2-3 key fishing towns on the mid-northern NJ coast?

- Will there be dry storage facilities (I.e., boatels) where I can keep the boat and not have to worry about trailoring or winter storage?

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Old 12-08-2008, 05:18 PM
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Less then three miles will beat anything you did in the Chesapeake
23' is find for inshore work (25) miles or less
Manasquan Inlet , Shark River Inlet and the surrounding towns

I used to fish the Chesapeake in the early 80's : nothing like real saltwater
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:32 PM
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Mike -

Been fishing NJ since a kid and on the water for ever. As CB Haws has listed, fishing out of the Manasquan Inlet or Shark River works well. There is also the famed Raritan Bay which is fantastic for striped bass, bluefish, fluke, etc. Getting to places such as the Mud Bouy the inner parts of the hudson runoff trench to droppoffs like Monster Ledge is doable on a good day with your boat.

Going to send you a PM on NJ - i'd be happy to talk to you. By the way, I am going to be in the Richmond area over Christmas.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:32 PM
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I say you need to upgrade to something in the 35 - 40 ft. range. I will then volunteer to show you all the "hot spots". It may take a dozen or more trips but we will get it done.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:49 PM
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Mike- You have a very capable boat for most of NJ's fisheries. I have taken my 242 Scout 80 miles offshore, but I would not want to do it all of the time. I spend most of my time 30 miles or closer to shore. This will give you a shot at almost everything except billfish, wahoo and yellowfin.

Send me a pm and I will give you some links to some local message boards and tackle shops with fishing reports/info.
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:51 AM
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Lots of choices. The closest would be Raritan Bay. Lots of places, but around Atlantic Highlands is probably prefered. There are some rack storage places around there, but up this area they are rare. Lots of open water and on some days it's hard to hide from the conditions, but you get a lot of choices, rivers, inside the hook and outside.
As others have mentioned, Shark River or Manasquan would be the next places movoign south. Personally I find Shark River very limited in what you can do. Very few places to go in the river besides heading outside. Manasquans you several options like outside, in the river, upper Barnegat Bay. Furthur south is Barnegat Bay with a lot of options. It is well protected but can get a pretty good chop with a south wind especially south of Toms River. You can find a lot of protected water here, but the bay is known to be shallow in a lot of areas, but offers good fishing, cruising and anchorages. This can be good if family is involved that doesn't want to only fish. Dependant upon the location it can be a run to the ocean, Either out of Manasquan to the north which can mean running the Point Pleasant canal or south to Barnegat Inlet. Forker River and Waretown offer you pretty good access to BI.

I find staying on the mainland side easier for traffic as getting onto the barrier islands can be a task a lot of times, especially Saturdays and holidays.

Your Dusky will be fine for any of these areeas.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:26 AM
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Best site for fishing related info is www.thebassbarn.com as it is a NJ based site for fishing. Great site with a lot of local fishing knowledge.

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Old 12-09-2008, 06:49 AM
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I second sea nile's recommendation, and just in case it gets deleted by the mods the website is bassbarn dot com. 15-20 miles west of Newark puts you in the Morristown area. From there it is pretty easy to get to the ocean just take 287 south to the GSP. The closest saltwater from there is the Raritan Bay which is about 35-45 min south. The Atlantic Highlands is a popular place to store your boat and it’s a short run from there to Sandy hook. There is lots of good fluke and striper fishing in the bay, and just outside of the hook. However, the Atlantic Highlands isn’t considered as “high class” as some of the other towns in NJ if that’s important to you.

Other recommendations for northern places to keep your boat are the Shark and Manasquan Rivers which are both about another 15-20 min south of the atlantic highlands, exit 98 off the GSP. The Shark River in Belmar area, and the Manasquan cuts through Brick, Lavalette, and Point Pleasant, both rivers have has direct access to the ocean. If money was no object my personal choice would be somewhere on the Manasquan, fish all day and hit up the board walk at night.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:54 AM
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Dont worry about fishing anymore. You will have to sell your boat to pay the property taxes (kidding - sort of )

you have a great boat for fishing off of NJ. My father had a single powered 23'er when I grew up and we caught everything from shark, tuna, bass, blues, flounder, weakfish, tog, seabass, bonita, etc.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:01 AM
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Although I'd fished NJ for many years, I just started keeping a boat there last year.. I chose Raritan Bay for several reasons. First, the fishing is excellant in the bay itself almost year round, and it offers easy access to the outside. While it can kick up, there is enough protection from most wind directions in the bay to allow me to get out most days. My marina is located about mid bay (Keansburg), so I have quick access to the back areas, Sandy Hook, or I can shoot straight across to Staten Island or up under the Verranzano into the Hudson. And as others have pointed out, access outside to area's like the Mudhole or offshore is easy. I researched lots of marinas and your choices there are wide.. Lots of rack storage available, (although that was not an option for me) and most marina's offer winter storage as well. You'll find prices in general go up the closer you get to the Hook. Good Luck!
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:44 AM
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I forgot to mention it earlier, for Barnegat Bay check out the Barnegat Fishin Hole and another relatively new site that covers a broader area is njfishingstation.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:20 AM
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you can also check njfishing.com
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:31 PM
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Thank you to all for the informative posts. You helped answer my most immediate question: Moving to NJ doesn't necessitate that I sell the Dusky.

I'm also happy to hear that there's such a variety of fish to be had in relative close proximity to Newark. Nobody spoke to this, but from looking at satellite picturs it also seems that it would be a blast to circumvent Manhattan or travel up the Hudson if those are navigable and publicly accessible routes.

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Mike_M - 12/9/2008 1:31 PM

Thank you to all for the informative posts. You helped answer my most immediate question: Moving to NJ doesn't necessitate that I sell the Dusky.

I'm also happy to hear that there's such a variety of fish to be had in relative close proximity to Newark. Nobody spoke to this, but from looking at satellite picturs it also seems that it would be a blast to circumvent Manhattan or travel up the Hudson if those are navigable and publicly accessible routes.

Mike
Mike inshore there are lots of fish to be had, fluke, stripers bluefish, and weakfish are most popular. With your size boat you can get out a little further and try for schoolie tuna, mahi and other fish.

I've been on otherpeoples boats up the hudson and around NYC. It seems kind of fun, but lots of junk floating down the river that you wouldn't want to run into, telephone poles, railroad ties, containers off of ships, who knows.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:01 PM
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I have run a few boats up the Hudson well past the TZ Bridge for folks. It is fun and lots of things to see. Fall along the Palisades is spectacular. Yes there is crap in the Hudson; but nothing to be afraid of. Going past the Statue of Liberty is a blast, as is running up the East River into Long Island Sound. There are some nice restaurants along the way.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:14 PM
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I have been from NYC to Troy. Nice views. You do have to watch the water for debris, especially after a heavy rain.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:36 PM
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:45 PM
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Welcome to NJ. I am in Chatham NJ, which is 15 miles due west of Newark. I do most of my fishing and boating in Barnegat Bay. I go outside the bay into the ocean in my 20 footer on calmer days.

If you don't mind going a bit more south, The fishing down in Barnegat Bay by the BB buoy is not bad. Also lower Barnegat Bay, and the Barnegat Inlet, is way prettier and the water is more scenic. BHWEB.com is a must for fishing. Your 23 foot dusky is the perfect boat for doing it all.

Jersey Boaters are the friendliest and most courteous you will find in the nation. Phew ok. I got that laugh out of my system! Seriously the folks on Barnegat Fishing Hole (bhweb) are the best. They are generous with help and knowledge, as is Mark and Charlie here (reelnautti and cbhaws).
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:10 PM
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Themis Sal - 12/9/2008 6:45 PM

Welcome to NJ. I am in Chatham NJ, which is 15 miles due west of Newark. I do most of my fishing and boating in Barnegat Bay. I go outside the bay into the ocean in my 20 footer on calmer days.

If you don't mind going a bit more south, The fishing down in Barnegat Bay by the BB buoy is not bad. Also lower Barnegat Bay, and the Barnegat Inlet, is way prettier and the water is more scenic. BHWEB.com is a must for fishing. Your 23 foot dusky is the perfect boat for doing it all.

Jersey Boaters are the friendliest and most courteous you will find in the nation. Phew ok. I got that laugh out of my system! Seriously the folks on Barnegat Fishing Hole (bhweb) are the best. They are generous with help and knowledge, as is Mark and Charlie here (reelnautti and cbhaws).
I live in Chatham also and keep my boat in the highlands, we fished today and crushed the little striper rats. There are a few rack storage places on the river and storage marina's close to the highlands ramp. The Highlands marina has dry storage on your trailer for $1025.00 a season...I checked a few rack storage marinas and that would run $5000.00 for the season. I have a 25' CC so your boat might be cheaper. PM me if you care to talk about the +and - of each place.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:28 AM
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Mantoloking Cove Marina, (owned by the town of Brick) has boat on trailer storage and a ramp. The marina is run down, the ramp is not the best; but it is priced right. If you keep the boat on a trailer you have unlimited in-out. I only mention this because it is right on the north end of the Barnegat Bay, close to the Point Pleasant canal and the whole bay opening to you to the south. The ride time through the canal to get to the ocean is on the order of 45 minutes. While that is not bad there are lots of fools out on the weekends that really think 5 mph through the canal is required. They really pi$$ me off. Usually they are guys in stinking outboard boats that speed to get ahead of you and then drift through the canal trying to block you progress. "Flip them the bird"
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