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Old 12-08-2008, 02:47 PM
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Looking for some opinions on depreciation for bottom painting a boat. I have a 2005 Hydra-Sports 3300 VX that is lift-kept in Jupiter FL and will be 3 years old in March 2009.

I would like to take it to a second home in the Lower Florida Keys during Spring and Summer but do not have a lift. I did get quotes for an elevator lift but at $25K plus decided against. I have stored at a Marina but the closest facility that could handle in/out was a 40 mile round trip and was a hassle for weekend usage.

Thinking of bottom painting to be able to keep at my Keys dock for a few months of the year but am wondering about depreciation impact on the boat and how well the bottom paint will work after being lift-kept for the marjority of the year in Jupiter.

Any opinions out there on bottom painting effect on value and effectivity when stored out of the water for prolonged periods?
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:52 PM
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lobsdiver, I have a similar concern with my 2006 26ft sailfish which I keep on a lift at my house in Tavernier. The house is being rented from Jan thru April and I want to move my boat to a water dock in Coral Gables. How long can I keep it in the water without painting the bottom before the growth will harm the hull?
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:58 PM
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JerryK - depends on the water temperature but in the summer if it is just sitting you will start to get a light brown stain in about 4 days and tiny barnacles in about 7 days. I kept my previous boat, a Bluewater 2350 sitting in the water for two weeks and was peppered with very hard to remove small barnacles. You can get the barnacles off, but the leftover scale is hard to removed. My experience, anyway. Wax will probably have an effect.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:24 PM
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I had my boat in Islamorada for a month. The owner of the resort had someone come out every 2 weeks and clean the bottom of the boats. He would also haul his boat once every few months to do a thorough cleaning. I would go against painting the bottom and just have a diver come out every 2 weeks.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:30 PM
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I also am having a similar problem with my 26 Regulator, to paint or not to paint. I have a lift in one location with a boat house over it but we have a slip in MHC and drystack is somewhat expensive so bottom paint became an option. I would love to know how it affects resale. I have no intention of getting rid of this boat anytime in the near future but I know it can't help. Has anyone done a long-term price comparison on bottom paint vs. drystack?
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:36 PM
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how many quotes on the lift did you Get in the Lower keys ? I was hit hard with a Quote also but the shopped around for a lift and beat the high quote

Say NO to Bottom Paint my vote !!

They do use these in water underwater covers out in west coast that are filled with fresh water ( I think ) and limits the growth Do a search may be an option

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If its only a few months a year I wouldn't do it, especially if its in the winter. The cooler water slows growth down a lot. Just pull it out a few times while you're down there to clean it. Have a guy come and brush it inbetween.
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Jon - I got 4 quotes which ranged from $20K to $28K plus various other fee's for electrical hook-up's. The other issue against the lift was the canal is narrow and I only have a 25' boat dock which limits the flexibility. I could extend the dock but the cost and permitting issue's were out of my reach at this time. I also thought about a triple 15000 lb trailer but then I need to get am F350 or equivalent and that just does not seem like a good option.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:14 PM
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Paint it!!! It may keep it from blistering too.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:30 PM
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There was a guy here who kept his parker in California he had some sort of plastic liner type deal that he floated pool chlorine containers never had any growth... All he did was push it down and push the boat out as soon as his outboards cleared he could motor out...

Might be worth find out about it...



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Old 12-08-2008, 09:15 PM
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Me, I would paint it. We painted our Mako. Yeah, when we sold it a few people did not even want to see it when they found out, but - we used the heck out of it. 500 hours is 2 years.

My opinion is you buy a boat to use not as an investment. The number one priority is to have fun. You have fun by using it. We wet stored it and never looked back. If I had a house on the water, my preference would be lift store it, but absent of that, I would want it behind my house. not on a trailer and not miles away in a high and dry. and in Florida - especially if you are really in salt the growth starts in days. In Lauderdale some of the canals are miles inland and very brackish. You can get away with it longer there. We had the boat half a mile from Hillsborough Inlet and the growth was so bad that even with paint, if the boat sat for more than 2 weeks we had to have a diver come in. I would imaging that the keys would be just as bad
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:30 AM
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Don't paint it! Get a cleaner to attend to cleaning the bottom every 2-3 weeks. I would never paint a boat that does not have paint. That's just my opinion. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:33 AM
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I would get one of those floating boat lifts...I recently priced one up for under $18,000...They have capacities to 30,000#...
First, it is portable...second, since it is not permanently attached, you do not need a permit, third, you do not have to pay property taxes on it because it is not an "improvement" to your property.

I am strongly considering one of these for a small waterfront house we are looking to buy...

Google "floating boat lifts" to find a few...
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I recently have been trailering my boat more and still decided to have my boat bottom painted. It leaves me the option of leaving my boat in the water for extended periods without worry. Besides with a white hull, I think it ads color to the boat. Go with an ablative paint so it can be dry stored for an extended period of time and still be active when wet.

I dont think it affects resale. You will have people who want it painted and people who do not. Personally I would pay a little more for a used boat that has been bottom painted and prepped properly as it is somewhat costly to have it done right the first time.

If the bottom is clean, you will not notice much loss in efficiency when it is painted or not. Good luck with your decision.
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I opt to bottom paint. Even my 17 foot cc. I like to leave them at the dock without worrying. In regards to resale, I agree with B-Faithfull, there are buyers who want it and those that don't.
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Depends on the area where you sell it. Here everything is kept in the water so bottom painting is a must. Personally I think a boat looks better with a painted bottom. When I had a small boat, a 21' cuddy cabin, I used a hard bottom paint. Being warm water kept & in a place where visibility is always good, it was no trouble to give the boat a quick scrub every weekend to keep it clean.

Ever since owning much larger & slower boats I use an ablative paint & only give it a scrub once or twice towards the end of the season & just before haulout. Scubbing a 32' boat without a tank is a real chore.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:47 AM
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It is meant to be used, it'll depreciate based on other things other than bottom paint. It is preference, but a simple fact is that gel coat does not keep out water, your boat will soak up water if there is no barrier coat. Some buyers will also not like all those darned rod holders....
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:42 AM
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I had the same problem...then I painted mine. I love it!! There is no way I would go back to scrubbing every 3 days. I didn't loose any performance either. Avoid the colored paints, black is the best.
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I had black on my last boat and am glad to have a color. Black gets grayed out of water after being used in the water. Blue just looks like light blue or green looks like light green.

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A broker "friend" says that when he discounts boats for wholesale, he takes 20% off for salt water use and another 5-10% for bottom paint....( now this is only on the hull value, not the total package) on trailerable sized boats...
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