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Old 07-28-2008, 06:24 PM
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Very funny Tireless!! Do you do background checks and have a metal scanner to use when they board? All been said already. I am in the camp that goes with other boat owners so everyone knows what is involved and the costs so we all chip in on expenses. There is one buddy of mine I go to Catalina with (not fishing) who refuses money for fuel and food so I get him back with buying dinner and working on his boat - I try as much as possible to buy the parts.

As for the legality of sharing expenses there is no grey area. If your not collecting more than the costs for fuel and bait then your fine. I have never heard of anyone having a problem with it. Some document the costs and money taken per trip but most don't.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:28 PM
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when are we gona go fishin is all i want to know ill pay my share no problem .sounds like u need to find some new fishin buddies
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:31 PM
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easy...a day trip w/ couples and you invited them...don't ask...
weekend for fishing or all day trip with guys for fish?...ask up front....
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:31 PM
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Captain Sid - 7/28/2008 4:45 PM

I've never had a problem splitting fuel costs. The people I take out on my boat usually argue about who gets to pay for the fuel. Maybe you are taking the wrong people fishing.
Thats about how it is on our boat , my regular crew does not want me to pay for anything. I have to to threaten them with, you can't come next time if I can't throw my share in the Kitty.

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Old 07-28-2008, 06:32 PM
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easy...a day trip w/ couples and you invited them...don't ask...
weekend for fishing or all day trip with guys for fish?...ask up front....
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:42 PM
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Easy. Tell them up front. This how much it's gonna cost.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:55 PM
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Put a tip jar beside the helm so when youget back to fuel up you can use the tip jar to fill the boat up. Of course I dont like leaving over a 1/2 tank of fuel in the boat while it is sitting in the boat storage area. I would hate for 50 gallons of gas to walk off one night and, the admiral would make me sleep on the boat until I caught them (it aint a cuddy cabin either.)
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:04 PM
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You have to step over a card swipe mounted on the gunnel when boarding my boat......and also put a quarter in to get the rod holder to open up.
Put another quarter in, and the livewell spits out a pinfish.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:22 PM
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40cr - 7/28/2008 10:04 PM

You have to step over a card swipe mounted on the gunnel when boarding my boat......and also put a quarter in to get the rod holder to open up.
Put another quarter in, and the livewell spits out a pinfish.
This is great. It brings back memories of the pay toilets on the Jersey Shore boardwalks back in the 70's. If you gotta go... you gotta pay.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:23 PM
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pursuit2 - 7/28/2008 6:07 PM

I am glad I read this thread. So now I know that when I take 5 guys overnight to the Canyon I get to pay for the $2,000 in Diesel, $100 worth of Ice, and $400 in Bait all by myself. In addition to the $20,000 it costs me just to maintain/dock/insure my boat every year.










It's called boat ownership.

You could always sell.

Or start a charter business...

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Old 07-28-2008, 07:42 PM
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All they have to do is offer me lunch at Houstons and they get a ride.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:46 PM
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An old boating buddy used to insist that tips would only be accepted after we returned to the dock. He believed (may be true) that taking money before that would make him an illegal charter. He wasn't taking close friends and probably was really doing illegal chartering, so I guess he was trying to do a little CYA.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:56 PM
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My boat is on a trailer. When we launch, it's always full. After we're done fishing, I go straight to a gas station and fill it back up. If a guy doesn't offer something while I'm pumping hundreds of dollars into the tank right in front of him, I assume he doesn't have it and don't way a word. If he offers, and they usually do, I take it. There are times I've paid for the whole trip and times I paid nothing but I don't count on anyone's help to supplement my hobby, I go fishing when I can afford it and anything on top of that is gravy.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:48 PM
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I invited/asked a guy (casual friend/neighbor) to go fishing once - he grew up near the water - not sure if he'd ever owned a boat?

Filled up the Jeep the nite before (my dime). Stopped at a station on the way to the marina, topped off the boat, and bought bait/ice. Got to the marina and paid the $10 for the ramp.

Fished all day, returned home - not ONCE did he offer to pay for ANYTHING, or even offer to help clean up the boat when we got home (he lived about 100ft. from me!)!

Even if he HAD offered, I probably wouldn't have accepted, but what burnt me up was he DIDN'T - at ANY one of several opportunities - even OFFER!

To me, "inviting" someone to go boating is no different than "inviting" someone to go to the beach/hunting/hiking/sight-seeing/etc. - they would probably expect to pay for some/all of your gas/expenses. CARS use gas but BOATS use even MORE, plus the gas used for TOWING!

So why not at least OFFER to help pay for a GREAT day on the water???!!!

Needless to say, I didn't "invite" the guy again.

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Old 07-28-2008, 09:02 PM
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place sign on boat, "boat runs on gas, not thank-you's"
if i could burn "thank you's" in my motors i wouldn't have this problem
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:32 PM
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I have guys offer and i always have a hard tie accepting. Even from the regular friends. With prices how they are I mighthave to get over that flaw. I never have ot pay for ice or bait and the other guys always do a great job of cleaning up the boat at the end of the day. I am usually so exhausted that cleaning the boat itself is worth more than the gas money to me. When I go out with my wife I get stuck with all the post fishing chores. That usually means a couple hours of work by the time the fish are cleaned, boat is cleaned and coveered, caracsses are disposed of, etc. It kicks my butt at the end of a long trip.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:46 PM
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Captain Sid - 7/29/2008 5:45 AM

I've never had a problem splitting fuel costs. The people I take out on my boat usually argue about who gets to pay for the fuel. Maybe you are taking the wrong people fishing.
Hey tell your fishing buddies they are all invited onboard here (one at a time if possible)

Most people I board in have no clue about how many gallons an hour it drinks. So I have onboard regulations and there is written "keep the boat balanced to reduce consumption as boats guzzles up to XY liters/100km" Don't use nm, use a distance they understand.

Or I say, well I only go down the river to the sea (30nm) with help of current to help reducing petrol bill.

However, people I invite, I refuse anything. I am so happy they share my pleasure. But those who invite themselves repeatedly, I would expect, unfortunately, matter of education.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:51 PM
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Always a great thread. To me every situation is different. If I am running out in the 18 Grady to drop some crab pots then of course I do not accept money for gas. But you have to be kidding me if you don't accept fuel on long range fishing trips. Everything is relative. I am going on a 7 days trip in August. 40 Foot Convertible with twin diesels getting 1 mpg. 4 guys for the trip and this will be offshore. If I had to estimate fuel consumed ahead of time I would say 600 gallons plus. I fully expect fuel to be split evenly at 25% each and all other things like ice, food, bev etc for the week to be irrelevant.
If a am providing a quarter million dollar fishing platform the least a buddy can do is put some petro in it. Nothing more nothing less. If anyone states that if you can afford the boat then you can afford the fuel is making a true assesment but that is not the point.

I will say that regardless of how I view things it is good to read how others treat the situation. It would be helpful in the posts to indicate how much fuel is burned on a typical trip you are referring to.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:09 AM
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Do you guys always try to make things so complicated?
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:31 AM
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Wow. This should be an easy question to answer. We fish offshore and when we fish with the boys, we split the cost for fuel and bait. My regulars know the drill. If I invite a new fisherman to join us, I tell the newbee up front that we split the cost and the normal cost is $xxx.00. If it's just me and my wife on the weekend, she pays!
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