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Old 07-19-2008, 10:34 AM
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Thanks Kerno...I certainly was not trying to do a who's boat is better thread.

Science,

I've said it many times...the Ren is a great boat, very welll built, and nicely laid out. In my case, I wanted a bigger boat, I didn't want to wait for it to be built, and I wanted a bigger support network if I had problems. Plus I bought my 330TE for less than I could have gotten the Ren (it was a leftover) and the dealer took my old boat on trade in a very fair deal. Had the situation been different, I might have gone with the Ren.

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Old 07-19-2008, 06:52 PM
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Scott is the guy at World Cat.
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Old 07-19-2008, 06:55 PM
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Thanks Jim , i am not going to use it at all .Will go with my buddy on his Regulator a much better choice.
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Old 07-19-2008, 07:02 PM
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Stinger I cannot post pics, but if you can I will send them and you can. I have alot of the blisters the faded hull that World Cat says they never made and of the cracks. Just let me know what you will post.
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Old 07-19-2008, 11:12 PM
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Harry and Kerno. First of all I have great respect for the men and women that serve our country. Harry and I have had friendly arguments for years and I know he is in the military. That is why I said "Keep safe". He is a helicopter pilot and I have seen a few pictures he put on the site that were very nice to look at but I would not want to be the guy's there.

I will leave it at that. Until I see some pictures of a boat and/or talk between the customer and the company, it is just trash talking.

Harry will tell you that if I am backing WC it is because I want to see the proof and the pictures before someone bashes a company.
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:16 AM
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I had serious issues with my BW Dauntless and asked a similar question only to have people on this site react similarly. It makes no sense that when you have a legit problem and ask for ideas that you have people react so childishly. No Boat builder is perfect and they all make mistakes in production. BW did finally come through with flying colors.
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Old 07-20-2008, 09:23 AM
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Thomas,

You have a PM
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:13 PM
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I took pictures already of my horrible boat . I am getting my insurance co. involved as of tomorrow .They sent me a release form for them to fix it again releasing them of all liens ,claims , lives of me and passengers , and finally no warranty on this boat which has until july 24 2011. What a bunch of slime they are .They think everybody is either a drunk ,oran illiterate. I am not going away that easily.That form lead me to belive that there is more than meet the eye with my junky boat .









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those pictures are after two failed attempts to fix the boat . you have to see it in person ,the pictures do not do justice.
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:25 PM
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Like they say the proof is in the puddin...

Good luck with the repairs...


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Old 07-20-2008, 07:25 PM
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Wow!!! Those pix looks like it is beyond the gelcoat. In picture #3 - I can almost see the glass underneath cracking.
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:35 PM
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Looks like a there are a couple of serious voids there!
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:32 AM
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What happened to the pics? They won't open..................
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:35 AM
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As the poster notes, these pics are AFTER two previous repairs, NOT completed by WorldCat. There's no way to tell what the shop did vs what was factory defect.

BTW, those voids are no larger than the voids found in most hand laid glass...anyone who thinks differently has not been around glass work very much. That is the reason that many new boats are using SCRIMP technology...using vacuum to suck the glass matting together and eliminate all voids, while decreasing the amount of resin required.

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Old 07-21-2008, 07:51 AM
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Was the work done by the NJ shop a factory authorized repair?? This gentlemen appears to have a problem, that is a crucial place for that kind of void in my opinion.
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:59 AM
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Looking at the pics, it's clear that this hull was put together pretty badly. In a curved area like that there should be several extra layers of glass to help form a very rigid beam like structure. This helps to reduce flex and minimizes the chance for the kind of failure we see here. There shouldn't be anything like a void in this area and the fact that there appears to be more than one is simply unacceptable from a quality control standpoint.
If I were doing the repair, I'd grind the entire inside curve out to about a foot on each side and lay in a couple layers of roving and mat to build up another 1/4 inch or so of thickness. Since the area is up in the tunnel it would be best to flip the hull to better get at the repair. If I could, I'd vacuum bag it.
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:08 AM
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In picture #2, I see what looks like bondo. Not a good choice of repair at such a place as that!
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:06 AM
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Harry Brosofsky - 7/21/2008 7:35 AM

As the poster notes, these pics are AFTER two previous repairs, NOT completed by WorldCat. There's no way to tell what the shop did vs what was factory defect.

BTW, those voids are no larger than the voids found in most hand laid glass...anyone who thinks differently has not been around glass work very much. That is the reason that many new boats are using SCRIMP technology...using vacuum to suck the glass matting together and eliminate all voids, while decreasing the amount of resin required.

Harry
Why try to shift the blame? De Ja Vu? Who cares how many times it has been repaired. The point is that: with such a reputuation as worldcat for QUALITY. It should of never been like this to begin with. Bottomline is: It was poor factory build that started it all.

Time to accept the fact that all boat have problems. Including the undestructible quality worldcat.

Something of this magnitude on a quality brand such as worldcat. I can only guestimate that such repair was done at the factory or at a factory authorized shop. Worldcat wouldn't just authorized john doe carpenter to do such reapair - would they?



BTW - thanks for keeping america safe.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:49 AM
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Sorry about calling your post a troll. DC you are obviously on the up and up.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:00 AM
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They have always done right by me....hope you get things worked out. Scott (Ellis) you spoke of is a real stand up guy and knows his stuff.
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