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Old 04-01-2008, 10:40 AM
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Florida Dan,
Not all Cats have tunnel slap, you should try a different brand before you rule cats out completely.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:40 AM
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FloridaDan - 4/1/2008 10:08 AM

cat tales - 3/29/2008 1:39 PM

Better ride, not always.

More fuel efficient, not

More stable, maybe moving but not in a cross chop drifting, can you say snap roll

Can you say tunnel slap

Catch an edge and everybody better be holding on.

I like and have owned several cats, buts lets be honest here. There are benefits and drawbacks like most all boats.

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Well summarized. Personally there is NO way I'd own a cat. The hull slap at trolling speeds just drove me nuts. The day I was out it was a confused sea and no matter what angle we tried to take the waves they were always banging between the hulls. And cat lovers say cats don't pound, sure.
Like Msilva I also have owned 4 cats and like him I now have a Prowler but if I was trolling all day I would not have a cat I would get a modV Parker Pilot house with a single large outboard and a 9.9 kicker. BUT I do not troll all day there are several things I like to do and since the Prowler is light weight it sits higher in the water so tunnel slap is minimal and it allows me to dive off of it easily. But Please don't you all buy cats so that way if someone steals my boat it will stand out more.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:47 AM
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that is one silly video.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:21 AM
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Joe@WBYachts - 4/1/2008 1:40 PM

Florida Dan,
Not all Cats have tunnel slap, you should try a different brand before you rule cats out completely.
The three brands that I tried all slapped, and badly. Only a dealer would make a claim like that.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:27 AM
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I am with dan. This is just one of the characteristics of a cat. There is only so much tunnel height. They all will slap given the right condition.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:35 AM
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Florida Dan,
All I can tell you is call and schedule a free no obligation ride in one of our World Cats, or Glacier Bays and I can personally show you. How many dealers will tell you that?
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:35 AM
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Hull slap is a non-issue for me. It only occurs when at trolling speed going straight into a sea. Fall off 30 degrees or so in eithier direction, and no hull slap. So if I must troll upsea, I just tack, like sailboat. Make the legs as long or as short as you wish.

As for "snap roll", well, a cat rolls with much less amplitude than a mono, but with a faster motion. I prefer it to wallowing like a pig.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:45 PM
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reelassets is smoking crack to say a mono gets better gas mileage than a GB of same size
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:47 PM
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If only it was as simple as cats vs mono , but its not.

It all comes down to what the boat is designed for and how its built.

Wanna go fast offshore in a big swell .....put me in a good solid built mono any day

on the other hand if you want a really good house boat or pontoon the cats the go!!!!![img]../images/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:00 PM
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its funny to read mono owners that have never been on a cat before downgrade them
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Oh I almost forgot .....they make really good jetty's and car carrying ferries as well [img]../images/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img][img]../images/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:31 PM
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how can you argue with a guy offering to put his money where his mouth is with sea trials all day every day?
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:00 PM
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UaVaj - 4/1/2008 11:27 AM

I am with dan. This is just one of the characteristics of a cat. There is only so much tunnel height. They all will slap given the right condition.
I just looked at a Freeman 33 under construction. All other cat manufacturers make the tunnel square, hence slap when the wave tries to roll through the tunnel. Billy makes the tunnel higher and round. I can walk through the tunnel of the 33. I have a 26' TV, love it and would buy it again, but if I was young enough and had the extra expendable income, I would buy the Freeman 33. He's actually looking at building a 27 or 28, can't wait to see it. He's not an assembly line cat builder, just getting started, and has plans to build about 12 to 20 per year. And for what its worth, I'll take tunnel slap any day compared to the rocking and rolling and hanging on for dear life that I've experienced in all of the great monohulls.
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:33 PM
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You go Ranger1.....I also have a 26 TV and it's boat number 12 in 30 years on the water....the best all-around boat I've ever owned....I came from a 28 cabin cruiser and a Privateer 21 before...oh yeah, also a sportcraft 25 was in there someplace......I do get hull-slap, but only under certain conditions, a little left or right course change and it's a non-issue....small price to pay for the outer bennies....Mick the video was still silly....
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:22 PM
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Oh poop.

All of you jokers have just ridden on american designed cats, and there is a big difference in sneeze and slap reduction when you raise the tunnel an additional 7" and balance it so that it runs bow happy when going slow like on a wider and taller New Zealand design.

Just because the american designers like to make a low profile boat thats easy to pull from a mold, doesn't mean that its a good product and that is what you are comaring it to.

Then I hear you belly ache about snap roll. Have you ever tried a cat with 10-16" beam? Want to compare gas economy on a 12' wide cat and a 12' wide mono?

And as far as slap goes, my mono slaps every single wave it hits making me rock foward and back, gets me ridiculously wet and pounds the living crrap out of my kidneys.

So unless you have tried more than a low trailer cat, you really have not tried a cat who's overall dimensions take advantage of the basic concept in the first place.

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Joe@WBYachts - 4/1/2008 2:35 PM

Florida Dan,
All I can tell you is call and schedule a free no obligation ride in one of our World Cats, or Glacier Bays and I can personally show you. How many dealers will tell you that?
Thanks ~ Joe
Thanks for the offer but I've already been both on a WC and GB. While they both had nice fit and finish I just could not put up with the hull slap. And the GB got alittle squirrely when we went downsea because, being a displacement style hull, we couldn't get the bow up enough.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:17 PM
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The only thing good about that video was the girl.
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Can you give me the contact info for that actress? I want to give her the star role in my new movie entitled "Jeremy Does Cat Lovers."
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That is one of the worst videos I have ever watched!
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35donzi - 4/2/2008 8:17 AM

The only thing good about that video was the girl.
Joe@WBYachts,
Can you give me the contact info for that actress? I want to give her the star role in my new movie entitled "Jeremy Does Cat Lovers."
ROF,LMAO!!!
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I was briefly looking into a catamaran hull for a possiblility, for my next boat. Still very confused as to the "bluewater" performance of this design?

I plan on doing a lot of open ocean traveling, blue water fishing, and gulfstream crossings, and Iam still confused as to weather or not this hull performs better or worse than a V hull? In these type situations. 4-6's and 8'-10' seas are commom! how does the cat. perform in big seas?

Ive seen huge sailing catamarans making ocean crossings etc, so Im thinking the hull cant be waisted on this aplication. Is there a diff. between the sailing cats and power cats?

also how big are some of these power cats built? I would be intrested in something at least in the 36' range but havnt seen much over 29'?
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