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Old 04-15-2007, 10:08 AM
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I was walking at the marina boardwalk yesterday and Heres a person with a 100k boat being tied of with lines with Knots and stingy ends, How many of you guys have a FID and braid your own lines ? I do, Plus when securing your boat to the dock Do you think this is a direct reflection of your Boatsmanship.

Anyway its rainy here in Wilmington and cant get out kinda Bummed
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:19 AM
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I braid my own b/c it's easy and cheap and gives me something to do while drinking cold beer on my days off.

The only clear indicator of your skills, IMO, is what comes out of the fish box!

For me, it's a matter of pride to not have ratty dock lines and such.

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Awesome boat-- would love for Lake Erie
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that is quit impressive.how about a few more pictures in and out?
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:22 AM
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I braid my own. I use 3-strand and this is how I recycle my anchor line. I should get a fid and switch to wrapped because it doesnt hockle and looks neater.
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rbhankins001 - 4/15/2007 9:19 AM

The only clear indicator of your skills, IMO, is what comes out of the fish box!
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Old 04-15-2007, 03:44 PM
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rbhankins001 - 4/15/2007 9:19 AM The only clear indicator of your skills, IMO, is what comes out of the fish box!
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Your mooring - or dock - lines are a reflection of your seamanship and boating skills.

Your fish box contents are a reflection of your fishing skills.

Based on literally hundreds of observations, there appears to be little direct correlation between the two different skills.

My seamanship and boating skills are far superior to my fishing skills. But I've been doing the former for 50 years and the latter for only five.

I presume that "braid" in the original post actually meant "splice"... and a marlinspike is usually used to open 3-strand layed rope for splicing..

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Old 04-15-2007, 07:34 PM
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Good question. No, I don't anymore, but some 30 years ago i did and they never looked as good as the ones I purchase premade today. However, I am anal about my dock and mooring lines. The tag ends at the end of the knot around the pilings are all taped, my braided lines are all taped over the end splice, and when I tie up for the night my stern, bow, and spring lines all have chafe protectors where they touch any part of the boat or dock. Again, I am anal, but really lousy at splicing lines. Fair at knots though, and some at my mariner ask me to help them set up their dock lines. My seamanship is head and shoulders over my fishing skills and I have been doing both the same amount of time. I guess there are just some things that I'll never master, so I make up for it with my anal behavior.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:03 PM
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Sometimes, as was mentioned, if re-using anchor line or if I need some sort of custom loop or splice, or need something now.

For example, I made a 3-strand to chain tapered splice Friday, so I could go fishing with a proper anchor on the windlass for Saturday. It saved a lot of hauling up and down and I didn't have to wait on a shop to do the work.

It isn't that hard to do, but takes some practice.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:12 PM
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It's called a splicing not braiding.

There are many who would tell you that proper use of nautical lingo is nearly as important as handsome docklines.

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Old 04-15-2007, 08:27 PM
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If your ability to tie knots reflects you seamanship abilities, then I guess every boyscout in america knows what to do 30 off in 7 footers?

I have never braided my docklines, but I have spliced them.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:40 PM
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sams - 4/15/2007 7:12 PM

It's called a splicing not braiding.

There are many who would tell you that proper use of nautical lingo is nearly as important as handsome docklines.

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I seldom see docklines around here. Typically, the operator heads bow first for the dock, hits reverse at the last minute while his buddy jumps to the dock. Buddy gets the trailer and the operator drives on.

Alternantive - operator pulls up parallel to the dock, wife grabs a cleat with her hands and hangs on for dear life while operator gets trailer, then comes back for the boat.

And no, I don't splice my own lines except for one that's double ended that I use for a springline.
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:00 PM
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Well Excuse Me !!! SPLICE The Line

I will start with a **** splice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_splicing

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Oh and also on the FID issue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fid

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Fluka Brasi - 4/15/2007 8:27 PM

If your ability to tie knots reflects you seamanship abilities, then I guess every boyscout in america knows what to do 30 off in 7 footers?

I have never braided my docklines, but I have spliced them.
Amen Brotha' and what the hell does nice dock lines have to do with seamanship? I keep all my gear in good shape and clean, but lets be honest, some of these guys that wash and wax their boats, have all the best gear, and keep their lines the neatest,... are some of the worst boaters I've ever seen. Not all of course, but dock line coiling is no indicator of seamanship.

More concerned about how the boat looks sitting at the dock than how they perform on the water.
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:12 PM
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I use braided line with the tag ends neatly secured into heat shrink whips so no need to splice or braid. Maybe I should learn how though??
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:49 PM
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The nice thing about making your own is that you can custom-size them to your home dock situation. That way you don't have lots of extra line on the dock (which, by the way, should be flemished or otherwise stowed neatly, not for fussiness, but for safety).

Also, there are times when a "special" line that's not sold commercially can come in handy - for my boat, I made up a Y-shaped dockline; one end goes up through my bow roller to the bow cleat, and the other two to separate cleats on the dock. Very convenient.

And since one thing leads to another, learning to splice will get you started on less common knots, like the monkey fist, which is a lot of fun to learn how to make, and quite handy.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:38 AM
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I don't know if I would trust a fid splice, it just loops into hollow rope, (not line)and is held there like Chinese fingers. I eye splice I think is better.
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freddy063 - 4/16/2007 4:38 AM

I don't know if I would trust a fid splice, it just loops into hollow rope, (not line)and is held there like Chinese fingers. I eye splice I think is better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fid

The Fid is a tool for Splice, the splice you are refering is a good method common on ski rope, as long as you come out the splice and then back in the line it will hold to line failure not splice failure


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Old 04-16-2007, 06:45 AM
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I have always spliced my own three strand nylon docklines, fenderlines and anchorlines, and flame and roll the splices underfoot for a Bristol finish. Any tag ends on the dock are in neat Flemish coils, too. Have always done it that way, but most don't. I love working with lines, knots, etc, and use Chapmans as my reference.
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