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Old 06-10-2021, 09:16 AM
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There is a 96 2950 proline walk-around for sale on popyachts. Its more than you want to spend, but you would like the size of it. Hopefully someone else may have better insights on this size.
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Originally Posted by Pillguy View Post
There is a 96 2950 proline walk-around for sale on popyachts. Its more than you want to spend, but you would like the size of it. Hopefully someone else may have better insights on this size.
The 2950 is a nice boat, but I would only own one with outboards. I have nothing against I/O's but on that particular model they are shoved all the way back against the transom and there's no room to do anything. The 2950 is also not easily trailerable.
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Originally Posted by Cable Mariner View Post
My dilemma is going to be choices for a repower when I finally get to do it. I'm concerned with the weight. These boats were designed around the weight of the outboards of that era. 25 years ago that meant sub 500 lb 2 strokes. I have the single bracket and the flotation tub is designed around that weight. It looks like my options are limited if I don't want to be stern heavy. I think the 300 HP Merc V-8 clocks in at around 510 pounds. The price tag on this motor has me wincing. The other option would being able to find a lightly used late model Optimax 300. I think they were made until around 2018. I'm not so sure i want to hang a 650 lb outboard on my bracket. I've seen too many stories of people who made poor choices in re-powering older boats with much heavier 4 strokes. Many have trouble with porpoising because of the weight.
I don't think the extra weight will hurt it, considering they put small block and big block V8's with Bravo 3's as standard equipment. The bracket shifts the weight a little aft, but still, 600lbs outboard vs big block + B3 drive which is easily 1200lbs...

Take a look at this also, might be of interestet to you Pro-Line 251 getting some love...I/O to Suzuki O/B

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Old 06-10-2021, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil_Inside View Post
I don't think the extra weight will hurt it, considering they put small block and big block V8's with Bravo 3's as standard equipment. The bracket shifts the weight a little aft, but still, 600lbs outboard vs big block + B3 drive which is easily 1200lbs...

Take a look at this also, might be of interestet to you Pro-Line 251 getting some love...I/O to Suzuki O/B
I actually have followed his posts. He did put a new bracket on it. which might have allowed for extra flotation. I have a Merc 9.9 Prokicker hanging on the back. I might have to consider taking it off with the extra weight. With a single outboard I like the security it gives me, It's great for trolling, and it has a 15 amp alternator so it keeps my batteries charged even when trolling. It looks like the old 2 Stroke Johnson is going to stick around another season with outboard shortages.
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Originally Posted by Cable Mariner View Post
I actually have followed his posts. He did put a new bracket on it. which might have allowed for extra flotation. I have a Merc 9.9 Prokicker hanging on the back. I might have to consider taking it off with the extra weight. With a single outboard I like the security it gives me, It's great for trolling, and it has a 15 amp alternator so it keeps my batteries charged even when trolling. It looks like the old 2 Stroke Johnson is going to stick around another season with outboard shortages.
That two stroke Johnson will last you forever if you maintain it. You have a good one.
If you want or have to re-power for some reason, go with the Opti 300, keep it serviced and it'll run forever. Lots of power and is a much cheaper option than a newer lightweight 4 stroke. If money is no issue, that Merc 300R sure looks sweet.
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Originally Posted by PaleRider14 View Post
That two stroke Johnson will last you forever if you maintain it. You have a good one.
If you want or have to re-power for some reason, go with the Opti 300, keep it serviced and it'll run forever. Lots of power and is a much cheaper option than a newer lightweight 4 stroke. If money is no issue, that Merc 300R sure looks sweet.
You are thinking pretty much along the same lines as me. The boat / motor package was used very little by the previous owner. The dealer who sold it on consignment told me that they had maintained it for like the previous 10 years and said that if there was 300 hours on the boat that would have been a lot. It was mostly suffering neglect from sitting. Everything cleaned up nicely with the usual pumps, hoses, and lots of electrical work. The motor gave me fits when I first got it. Ended up replacing Stator, regulator,and power pack. Most likely because the battery cables were trashed. Went through the entire fuel system from the tank to the carbs, link and sych, hoses plugs, thermostats, water pump....She runs like a champ with with 115-120 lbs on all cylinders.

The Opti 300 option if I could find a late model < 10 years old with low to moderate hours if I can find one would be probably the most economical solution for a 25 year old boat. If I decided to sell at some point I would be able to get my money back and not be married to the boat.
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Originally Posted by Swampy16 View Post
That Sea Fox likes like a great deal.


I was gunna say the same thing , The person that that posted all the Cl links gave the op a good cross selection of what’s out there right now anyway ....
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The offshore part is wishful thinking. To be honest, 90 percent of the time will be within sight of land listening to the Red Sox while the kids fish for flounder.
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Originally Posted by Teachaman View Post
The offshore part is wishful thinking. To be honest, 90 percent of the time will be within sight of land listening to the Red Sox while the kids fish for flounder.
In that case look for a deal on a 1999+ trophy 2002wa or bigger. Cheap boats that are built well enough and you can find them with a more recent repower for ~15k. Just last year, there were 3 around that price with 2010-2012 4 stroke 150-200s.

edit: did a quick search and Covid added 10k to the prices I see now. Still you can get a 22ft wa with a fairly new or brand new engine for around 25k.




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I would stay away from twins! Go for a 23’ with a 250hp and you will be happy.
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https://www.lakeontariounited.com/fi...-islander-268/

heres a nice freshwater boat. 1995 but looks in great shape.
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Originally Posted by JigStick View Post
https://www.lakeontariounited.com/fi...-islander-268/

heres a nice freshwater boat. 1995 but looks in great shape.
From 2019.....But Yeah that was a great deal. I would have jumped on it if I could have found a deal like that when I was looking.
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Are the Trophys any good. Aren't they Bayliners. Up here, the Bayliners don't have much of a reputation. I like the look of the Trophys, but worry about quality.

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Originally Posted by Teachaman View Post
Are the Trophys any good. Aren't they Bayliners. Up here, the Bayliners don't have much of a reputation. I like the look of the Trophys, but worry about quality.
you see a lot of them in Rhode Island. Stay away from the inboard outboard versions. I have one now and have no issues. Fit and finish are fine. No structural issues. A few minor pumps to fix after I bought it. Does 35 with a 150 on the back and handles rough water fine. I’d much rather have a 2800 hydra sport but this is what I found when I was looking. Prob got it 3-5k below market then.
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Originally Posted by Teachaman View Post
Are the Trophys any good. Aren't they Bayliners. Up here, the Bayliners don't have much of a reputation. I like the look of the Trophys, but worry about quality.
The 80's and early 90's were not that great but anything newer than that are pretty good
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Love this thread as it is very applicable to my situation including geographically.

Our offshore run is generally under 20 miles and I’m one year away from upgrading to a 23-25’ with the same budget.

Sure am hoping things level off between now and next summer!!

happy with my 18’ DC for now and will continue to find buddy boats for shark trips on the outside for this year.

good luck OP, post up what you end up with!!
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Originally Posted by Teachaman View Post
Fair. I saw a Wellcraft 1997 238 for $22,000 with a 2007 etec on it. Not going to go offshore in that, but it'll do 90% of what I want.
I just sold my 1997 wellcraft 240 ccf (same boat as 238 ccf) with an 05 mercury verado 250 for 22k. I listed it on here

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Originally Posted by Teachaman View Post
I've been looking at the prolines. Seem like a good buy used, since the more recent (post 1996?) models have no wood in them. The last boat I had would spit splinters of plywood out the drain hole after a day on the water.
1994 was the last year Proline used wood in their stringers and transoms. 1995 and on are the wood free years. I owned a Proline in the past and I would certainly consider owning another.
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I’m sure you can get pretty creative on an older classic Hull for close to your budget.
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Originally Posted by bonestockgoose View Post
what stupid reply...

you can find plenty for 25k, especially if you are handy and can fix and upgrade things yourself.
If you’re handy and have enough time (the real key) a free boat and a free engine would work…

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