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Project dilemma, 24 albemarle or 25 bertram

Old 06-07-2021, 08:13 PM
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Default Project dilemma, 24 albemarle or 25 bertram

So this is a wonderful problem to have lol, in the past year Iíve picked up 2 project boats. Both need a major amount of work, but something Iím happy to invest the time in since ill
be doing everything myself. So Iíll be saving a ton by doing everything on my own.

The bertram is a 1968 sport convertible (moppie). My would be so build it as an express style boat, currently has no engine so Iíd most likely be doing an outboard conversion. But like the look of an inboard more.

the 24 albemarle is in need of a repower, just pulled the engine tonight. Iíll be keeping it an inboard/stern drive. This boat is way easier to trailer, not that Iíll be trailering all the time. But the beam of the bertram makes it more difficult on longer trips. Itís just under 10í wide

ive never been for a ride on either hull, but have read great things about both.

Iím posting this because Iíd like some input from you guys Pros/cons

like I said, Iím ready to do major work to either, Iíve even considered redoing the albemarle first. Then doing the bertram in a year or two.

Th boat will be used in the Chesapeake more than anything, but I plan to take them each offshore a few times per year. Possibly even a trip to NC every now and then. Iíve wanted each hull for years and couldnít pass them up. It will be used by my wife and 2 boys, 4 and 7. While repowering the albemarle, I may do stringers and redo all the wiring, itís a bit hacked as far as the wiring. Lol

Tue bertram is a clean slate. This is a great problem to have, all thoughts and input are welcome 👍
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Sound like a problem a lot of wouldnít mind havin. Lol. The Bert probably be my choice, only because I just love em. But in all honestly, new type inboard EFI motors, good out drive and all you plan to do, the Albemarle 24 just may be the very best way to go. Trailering, itself is a huge plus. No need in getting too much attention from the popo
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Exactly, it’s not like it’s just over the limit. It’s nearly 2 feet over lol

The pro and con on the bertram is the beam, can’t beat it. But too wide to trailer legally
staying local won’t be an issue, but if I’m going To OC, that may be a different story.
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Sounds like you like the project as much as the result. If that's the case I'd store the Bertram in a way to minimize further weathering/deterioration and then tackle the Albemarle...in a few years you can come back to the Bertram
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Over the years I've owned a Bertram 25's and I grew up on my dad's 25 and 31 Bertram. They are a great boat period, While I've never owned a 24 Albemarle, I've ridden on a few, and they rode nice, the Bertram rode better. If I was up to doing an OB conversion, a Bertram 25 or 31 would diffidently be on my list.

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I like that your keeping it a stern drive too
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Depending on how often and and where you to intend to trailer the boat, the width of the Bertram may be a problem.
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I'd do the Albemarle but I'm bias. I'd also consider converting it over to an O/B.
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Originally Posted by Jimbow1 View Post
Exactly, itís not like itís just over the limit. Itís nearly 2 feet over lol

The pro and con on the bertram is the beam, canít beat it. But too wide to trailer legally
staying local wonít be an issue, but if Iím going To OC, that may be a different story.
You can trailer legally IF you get Oversize Load permits for each state. I do this for my 25' Bertram, trailering between Vermont, through New Hampshire to Maine. Easy to do online. Not costly either, as one way trip for NH and Maine is only $6 each state. Annual, unlimited use OL permit in Vermont is $140 IIRC.

As long as you're under 12' width (if I recall) you don't need a pilot car. Just Oversize Load banners front and rear, flags on widest part and flashing yellow light on top. Each state has limits on days/hours and weather conditions.

So don't let the width scare you off.

And, by the way, DON'T try to tow an oversize load without the proper permits and signage! If you have an accident, even if it's not your fault, you will be liable and your insurance won't cover you. And, the penalties for getting caught by the authorities are severe.
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I'll second the albemarle. It tows easily and can easily handle what you should be out in in a 24 ft boat. Looking at new i/o power is not cheap. They are computerized just like modern outboards and cars with catalytic converters and the likes. Also I'd plan on stringers and transom, although there's likely enough tabbing that you'd never have an issue if it was rotten. An o/b conversion really clears up cockpit space but puts that 30" 300hp back there to fish around and weight redistribution is key.

That said I am quite biased and also cheated as I had a shop do the glasswork. If you go this route feel free to pm any questions and there are several build threads on here (mine included) that will give you great ideas and save a lot of heartache, and time.

Fishing around the outboard is a drawback.

I do like the open cockpit. Gotta have room to dance when fishing dictates.

Don't be too hard on her, still a work in progress.
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I have a bertram 25. This towing issue is getting overblown. The boat is more like 9í-6Ē for a small section in the middle, so about a foot over the limit which is obviously 6Ē per side. I used to do permits but honestly with the stuff that goes on out on the highway, being a little overwide is pretty tame.
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My choice would be the Albe, if you want to go boating while your children are still young. The Bertram sounds like a much more in depth project, probably multiple years, especially if you change the topsides configuration. Changing weight and balance on a hull can be challenging to overcome on some hulls.
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I agree with you. The issue here is how bad The DOT police are. Not something I really want t mess with
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I'd go for whichever can get finished the quickest and hopefully the least amount of money.
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The extra width of the Bertram makes the cockpit without the IO's phenomenal. I know it's not that much wider than the Albemarle but that little bit of difference is huge.
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Originally Posted by buzzk View Post
The extra width of the Bertram makes the cockpit without the IO's phenomenal. I know it's not that much wider than the Albemarle but that little bit of difference is huge.

I have them both sitting side by side, itís a huge difference.

tough decision lol, anyone want to buy a 24 albemarle hull?
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Starting the year down on the 5.7 mercruiser tonight.

got the motor out and on a stand.
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What would the price be?

I followed LittleInlet's build from the beginning and came to the conclusion that Albemarle is great. Really like his boat and how good he did with it. I decided to buy my Chris Craft which has plenty of life left in it. But I was curious how much.
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With the market today; which could you finish quicker and then get a good profit? Just another consideration you could think about.
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I owned a 25' Bert Moppie years ago. She had twin 4 cyl Merc I/Os and was slow as crap but I've never been on a more stable 25' boat before or after I sold her. Biggest reason for selling was kids, work, etc. but one day I'll own another one. Boat is an absolute tank and just needs more HP to push it along. With today's outboard choices, there are many different ways to repower or stick with the I/O package. Many have had the bracket/outboard conversion done over the years, so anything s possible. Not going to be cheap, but the rude is unbeatable in that size boat. Fuel capacity would be another concern. I believe mine had twin 46 gallon tanks so range would be limited until more tanks were added.

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