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Project dilemma, 24 albemarle or 25 bertram

Old 06-09-2021, 07:45 PM
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I owned a 25' Bert Moppie years ago. She had twin 4 cyl Merc I/Os and was slow as crap but I've never been on a more stable 25' boat before or after I sold her. Biggest reason for selling was kids, work, etc. but one day I'll own another one. Boat is an absolute tank and just needs more HP to push it along. With today's outboard choices, there are many different ways to repower or stick with the I/O package. Many have had the bracket/outboard conversion done over the years, so anything s possible. Not going to be cheap, but the rude is unbeatable in that size boat. Fuel capacity would be another concern. I believe mine had twin 46 gallon tanks so range would be limited until more tanks were added.
if I do the bertram, my dream would be to
convert it to twin outboards, or diesel in or and modify the bottom with a prop pocket, so I would have to run a v drive and would help with the draft not being so deep.

fuel capacity would be 150gal or more. Id decide on engine first, then build the boat around that so it would be balanced correctly.
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With the market today; which could you finish quicker and then get a good profit? Just another consideration you could think about.

another good option 👍

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Originally Posted by Bizzi View Post
With the market today; which could you finish quicker and then get a good profit? Just another consideration you could think about.
I'd never wish a project like mine on someone wanting to flip it. By the time you get done with her you won't want to let her go. On the bright side with the way the market is the recent insurance survey says the boat is worth more than I have in it even though I had a shop do the glasswork. Makes me think about selling it until I realize I have to do it again
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Got the motor torn down,
had was intrusion/rust on a few intake ports.

so
most likely the intake gasket failed, water got into the cylinder, it was either at startup or while running.

hydrolocked the motor and bent a valve. Appears to be no piston damage, cylinder damage etc... in gonna dig a little deeper tomorrow to get a better idea, to see if it’s worth a rebuild or just get a new long block, intake etc...

found a killer deal om
another 5.7 but it’s a carb setup, had 12 hours on it then the owner switched to a set of twin outboards.

I’m thinking about buying it and switching my setup over to carburetor, or possibly just running the efi setup on that motor but I’m afraid of having tuning issues with it.

decisions decisions.
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Sorry don't know how to post a link.




If you ever want to take a ride let me know. Never have to twist my arm.
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Sorry, I had to. In all seriousness it wasn't much more to go this route than a total repower on an i/o, especially if you do it yourself. Just make sure you check the stringers and the transom where it meets the stringers no matter which route you decide.
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I’ll be honest, the only reason I’d probably stay with the I/O setup is for looks, I just love how clean they look. I’m probably one of the few that feel that way.

And too me, the I/O is pretty simple to work on, I know they need some more maintenance. But that’s with most things
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so I gave both hulls a quick wash, and to inspect them further. Comparing things I like between the two.

Also checked the hull thickness on both hulls, to my surprise... the albemarle is twice as thick. Measuring between 1/2”-5/8” on the hull sides and seems like atleast 1” thick on the bottom.

the bertram is 1/4”-5/16” on hull sides, maybe 5/8”-3/4” on the bottom. Still a lot compared to today’s hulls, but the albemarle is a tank!

also found small crack in the block during tear down, so it’s gonna need a new long block.

and also the hulls in the background are formula 233’s, both for sale





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You've got good taste in project boat hulls!
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So, just wondering -- why not rebuild a Formula instead? They are very popular also it seems from what I have read in Tht. That is interesting about the hull thickness between the 2. I think you should rebuild the Albemarle. That is my vote.

Can you do the poll here on Tht?
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Originally Posted by Bizzi View Post
So, just wondering -- why not rebuild a Formula instead? They are very popular also it seems from what I have read in Tht. That is interesting about the hull thickness between the 2. I think you should rebuild the Albemarle. That is my vote.

Can you do the poll here on Tht?

oh yeah Id love to do the poll here, if I knew how to edit this post and add a poll, I would haha

my original pal. Was to rebuild the 233, but shortly after buying the 2nd 233 hull.

I found bertram less than 10 miles away... and just recently picked up the albemarle because I absolutely love them, and always heard of the super thick layup on those hulls. Which I confirmed to be true. Incredible built tanks!

the hull thickness alone is making me really consider selling the bertram.

Ill be honest this albie is one of my dream hulls, its really gonna do everything Id need

but if I built the bertram to how I have planned in my head, it too would be an amazing platform to fish. Theres just so much room on that 25 bertram
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Go to thread tools, pull down the menu. It will be there. Just checked on 1 of my threads.
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My vote is in.

Check out Jimbow1's poll everybody
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I owned an Albemarle for over 20 years and rebuilt the hull several times. Eventually our family out grew the boat w the 8 beam. Just not comfortable for a family of 5 adults.

the Bertram is a completely different boat I would go Bertram w out question.
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alby first with a big single.... then cut the burt and make it a 28 or 30' boat with twins
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Originally Posted by critt77matt View Post
alby first with a big single.... then cut the burt and make it a 28 or 30' boat with twins

ive got my heart set on keeping in an inboard.

The bertram stretch wouldnt be bad, if Id was gonna go through that. Id probably start with a 28 and do something similar to the 28 bertram Jimmy Wells did. I think he goes by Daytrip on here.
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there is a forum for moppies ... just can't find it again
with a lot of different restoration ideas
Google bertram 25 forum


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Originally Posted by Aussieguy View Post
there is a forum for moppies ... just can't find it again
with a lot of different restoration ideas
Google bertram 25 forum

I believe that has dissolved into the bertram 31 forum. Still lots of great info. Ive seen pretty much every thread on here or anywhere else regarding the 25 bertram.

i love seeing what people do with them. Ive had that 25 for about 2 years, always been doing work for other people on their boats and building a house.

now that Ive got some extra time, Ive been really debating on which one to do.

What I really need to do is sell both formula hulls, and keep the albe, and do the bertram in a year or two. Haha

or list the albe on here just to see if I could sell it.
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You are killing us with the suspense. Smiles. Actually I am enjoying the wait to see your choice. Is the announcement going to be July 10th?
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Remember the albe 24 / 233 hull beat the Bertram 31 to landfall in the great race to Bahamas ! Although Bertram made it to finnish line first by taking chances and cutting through the reefs instead of following channel to harbor !
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