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Old 04-29-2021, 05:10 AM
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I had an issue similar to yours with a 24 ft foam encapsulated boat and was given a new hull. I was responsible for the removal and reinstall of everything on the hull. It was quite expensive. good luck
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This was a huge Hydrasports issue just before they went bankrupt. The inner liner is installed withglobs of bonding putty which leaves voids between the two parts. When thru hulls are installed through both the hull and liner, they are often installed in one of these void areas. When this happens, you can seal it and tighten as much as you want but the hydraulic pressure will force water into these voids. The only way to fix it right is to have an over-sized hole cut in the liner so the thru hull is through bolted thru the hull shell only. You should find a surveyor who is familiar with using ultrasound. The ultrasound will detect any voids so you can easily determine if you have major issues or not so much
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I would have never touched that hull with a drill before the manufacturer looked at it, but since it is already done, I hope you got a video of it to show them. Any chance it could be rainwater being caught by the hull and funneled into a crack or cavity somewhere? Scuppers or thru-hulls not sealed maybe?

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Old 04-29-2021, 06:02 AM
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I would wait until I hear their response. If they don't immediately want the boat back I would call an attorney. There is no way a 2 hour old boat should have water like you described.
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Maybe not helpful since you might not have a trailer but wonder what the hull wait should be vs what it is. Would be an easy way to estimate how much water is in the hull. You might have drained it all but that still means there is a large problem at large. I think you will need to somehow get the boat back to the manufacturer/dealer for review. I would do an independent survey prior to that and maybe have the surveyor talk with the dealer/manufacturer directly so they clearly understand the issue. They might try to slow drag you and I would only get lawyers in or threat to get a lawyer in if all else fails. The previously poster who moved everything onto new hull and paid for it is probably nicer than I am or handier than I am. You bought a new boat and should get the boat you ordered with no issues. If in the event they give you a new hull, have it inspected prior to taking it.
Old 04-29-2021, 06:26 AM
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Sounds like a job for Tunnles!
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:39 AM
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Man, sorry for your situation. That really sucks and it sounds like it is going to get worse before you get to the other side of it. Hope for a pleasant surprise and the manufacturer steps right up and makes it right. But I'd plan for a long and challenging fight. I'd be calling surveyors and looking for one that has experience testifying as an expert witness with great credentials. Ask them if they have ever testified for or against the manufacturer of your boat. Cant use anyone that has a conflict of interest but hopefully you can find a good, well credentials surveyor that is not conflicted. Get a complete survey done and let the manufacturer do their thing and see what they come up with.
Like others, I'd like to see pics when you can. Best of luck to you.
Old 04-29-2021, 06:45 AM
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I had a similar issue with a new Wahoo/Robalo about 25 years ago with water in the wood stringers and transom. The dealer fought me on it initially but once I hired a professional surveyor Brunswick replaced the boat. It was worth the $500 and waiting a month. The dealer was a sourpuss after but who cares. 10+ boats later and not a one bought from them.

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I never understand the fear of naming the manufacturer It actualy works in your favor as we have seen many times where the manufacturer does the customer right because the problem is public. Plus there are guys on here who have extensive experience with specific brands. No one can help you if you keep us in the dark
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Unfortunately, warranties permit a manufacturer to deliver a product with major defects with no option for return of the product for refund. In this case, major delamination in a boat with 2 hours. The manufacturer has the option to repair or replace; the buyer is stuck with the manufacturer's decision. Many states now have a lemon law for automobiles that somewhat addresses the issue. Boat buyers have no such protection. I hope the OP gets a new hull. I would never trust a repair in this situation. Even if they gave me a new hull, I would wonder if the problem hasn't been duplicated in all the hulls of this model.
Old 04-29-2021, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GH02050 View Post
^^ enter the village idiot.

Good luck OP. If I were you I would seek out a good marine lawyer.
People who resort to personal insults do so because they’ve exceeded their intellectual capacity to articulate a cogent opinion. Caprice?
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Yes, get a survey by the most credible surveyor you can find, and start looking for a lawyer, one that's been down this road before.
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Old 04-29-2021, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by iguana View Post
I had a similar issue with a new Wahoo/Robalo about 25 years ago with water in the wood stringers and transom. The dealer fought me on it initially but once I hired a professional surveyor Brunswick replaced the boat. It was worth the $500 and waiting a month. The dealer was a sourpuss after but who cares. 10+ boats later and not a one bought from them.
Up until my current boat I always thought guys suggesting getting a survey on a new boat were crazy. Luckily I’ve got a great dealer that will do whatever it takes to make things right still a pain to have ridiculous problems due to poor quality control.
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Originally Posted by El Comandante View Post
People who resort to personal insults do so because they’ve exceeded their intellectual capacity to articulate a cogent opinion. Caprice?
Or...Or, you got called out for a glib and unhelpful comment in a thread where a new owner must feel sick to his stomache about discovering these issues, and no path forward is going to be easy or stress-free.

But yeah, flick turd-balls for your amusement.
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Old 04-29-2021, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BOSBoatMan View Post
Sounds like a job for Tunnles!
Naturally, gotta fill in those scuppers.

OP, really sux. Hopefully, you're not too far from the manufacturer. My (quick) story. Bought a new Scout in 2000. Within a week, stress cracks in both port and starboard transom corners. I didn't think a new boat should be showing gelcoat stresses that soon. Dealer was pretty good to deal with but said it was a manufacturing issue. Scout said to send it back to them; the dealer did, on Scout's dime. They had if for a couple months. Ground out the cracks, re-did the gelcoat. Installed trim tabs gratis. Of course, the stress cracks came back within a year; but I didn't consider it a structural issue to worry too much about. Had that boat for 10 years. Sold it, and the surveyor noted "stress cracks in transom" but it didn't affect the sale; the moisture reading below the water line (another foam cored hull) did.

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damn, in for this ride.
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following along . . . this should be interesting.

How new is 'brand new"? days, weeks, months?
Old 04-29-2021, 08:20 AM
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While I agree the OP shouldn't do anything further to the boat (including using it), there's a good chance this problem would have gone unnoticed had he NOT drilled the hull for gear install. In that respect, I don't think he hurt his case by doing so, especially considering (and assuming he has documentation from the dealer) that they gave him the blessing to install the transducer.
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I would contract a surveyor.

If 5 gallons of water was trapped within the core, something is wrong. This new boat should not have lived long enough to saturate the core.


If the coring were 1/2 in thick, they would have to leave out 16 square feet of coring to hold 5 gallons.
If this is a delamination of the coring from the fiberglass, there is a lot of it to physically contain 5 gallons, or even 1 or 2 gallons.

Survey.

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I would get the survey done so you will know exactly what the issue is, and you can make sure it is spelled out what you are expecting to be fixed. There can be a HUGE difference between "we stopped the leak" and "we corrected the issue that resulted in the leak."
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