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Old 04-10-2021, 07:58 PM
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Cool Another "which boat?" & other noob questions.

First off, I'll say its a hard time to buy a boat. You can't even look at one before you buy it these days. They all have to be ordered so that's not helping me at all. And none of the boats I want are within an hours drive.

My wife has greenlighted me on buying a boat. Initially i was looking around $10-20k but.. It escalated quickly. I'm in the $60k or less range now.

I want a boat primarily for fishing with my family of 4 in freshwater (crappie & stripers) with the option to fish saltwater one day.

I have a purchase agreement sitting in my inbox now for a Boston Whaler 170, but then I started looking at Sea Hunt Ultra 219. Seems like you get a lot more bang for you buck with this. As I type, I think I'm already convinced I'd rather have the sea hunt but I kind of need somebody else to tell me (that isn't a salesman) that I'm making the right choice. Is there any reason I would buy a Boston Whaler 170 or 190, basically bare bones over a near fully loaded Sea Hunt Ultra? Is there any other boat I should be looking at?

Noob questions:
- With the seat cushions, do you stand on these when you fish or do you have to remove them? If so, I'd rather just not have them because they'll end up rotting away in the garage.
- Those rod holders on the roof of the t-top, do you troll with those or are they just for storage?
- How likely am I to royally screw up my boat if I take it into salt water once or twice a year (like a bay or something)?
- Anyone know if sea hunt's 219 is self bailing? I find their website & youtube kind of lacking on the details.

I know y'all (that's southern for you guys) have better things to do than answer my questions so I greatly appreciate any feedback or insight.

Thanks!
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- My boat is 90% fishing and I keep the seat cushions in the garage. They keep just fine there (clean them every now and then) and come in very handy when we just want to take a "boat ride" with some friends.
- Rod holders on the top are for storage if they point up, if they are on the very top and point to the side they are meant for trolling
- If you have an outboard and you take the boat out of the water after use it will be fine for a few saltwater trips. Just get some muffs and flush fresh water from the hose through the engine to flush the salt out of the cooling system. Also give the outside a good rinse with the hose to take care of any salt that dries on the outboard.
- Sorry, I'm no help with the specific boat question.
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:38 PM
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Nice. Ok. Certainly good to know about the rod holders. Thank you for the reply!
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Originally Posted by flashsplat View Post
First off, I'll say its a hard time to buy a boat. You can't even look at one before you buy it these days. They all have to be ordered so that's not helping me at all. And none of the boats I want are within an hours drive.

My wife has greenlighted me on buying a boat. Initially i was looking around $10-20k but.. It escalated quickly. I'm in the $60k or less range now.

I want a boat primarily for fishing with my family of 4 in freshwater (crappie & stripers) with the option to fish saltwater one day.

I have a purchase agreement sitting in my inbox now for a Boston Whaler 170, but then I started looking at Sea Hunt Ultra 219. Seems like you get a lot more bang for you buck with this. As I type, I think I'm already convinced I'd rather have the sea hunt but I kind of need somebody else to tell me (that isn't a salesman) that I'm making the right choice. Is there any reason I would buy a Boston Whaler 170 or 190, basically bare bones over a near fully loaded Sea Hunt Ultra? Is there any other boat I should be looking at?

Noob questions:
- With the seat cushions, do you stand on these when you fish or do you have to remove them? If so, I'd rather just not have them because they'll end up rotting away in the garage.
- Those rod holders on the roof of the t-top, do you troll with those or are they just for storage?
- How likely am I to royally screw up my boat if I take it into salt water once or twice a year (like a bay or something)?
- Anyone know if sea hunt's 219 is self bailing? I find their website & youtube kind of lacking on the details.

I know y'all (that's southern for you guys) have better things to do than answer my questions so I greatly appreciate any feedback or insight.

Thanks!
I had the same experience you did. Shopped for over a year before buying a new Ultra 219. Though I was able to sea trial it first, and the dealer is 25 mins from my house. The only mid tier boat I could find used was the Key West and they were as expensive as new. I have really enjoyed the boat and everyone Iíve taken out has been very complimentary. But my boating experience has been limited to flats (mostly maverick and egret) and bay boats (17-19 pathfinders) with guides. Iíve never been on similarly or larger sized pathfinders, contenders, invincible, etc. so I donít really have that to compare it to. And it doesnít really matter if I did because I donít have 150k or more to dump on a boat. Iím sure folks here and other places will sh*t on the SH, but itís been fine for me.

My boat is exclusively in salt water. Wash it down each time and flush the engine and you should be fine. I keep my rear cushions at home in my garage and the bow cushions in the console unless weíre cruising.
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Originally Posted by Tennessean View Post
I had the same experience you did. Shopped for over a year before buying a new Ultra 219. Though I was able to sea trial it first, and the dealer is 25 mins from my house. The only mid tier boat I could find used was the Key West and they were as expensive as new. I have really enjoyed the boat and everyone Iíve taken out has been very complimentary. But my boating experience has been limited to flats (mostly maverick and egret) and bay boats (17-19 pathfinders) with guides. Iíve never been on similarly or larger sized pathfinders, contenders, invincible, etc. so I donít really have that to compare it to. And it doesnít really matter if I did because I donít have 150k or more to dump on a boat. Iím sure folks here and other places will sh*t on the SH, but itís been fine for me.

My boat is exclusively in salt water. Wash it down each time and flush the engine and you should be fine. I keep my rear cushions at home in my garage and the bow cushions in the console unless weíre cruising.
Ok great! Thank you for the info. I certainly dont have $150k either lol.

We drove down to Orlando Today and my wife was calling out boat shops. Never thought she'd be so on board. I think I better act quick before she thinks about it too much.
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Ok great! Thank you for the info. I certainly dont have $150k either lol.

We drove down to Orlando Today and my wife was calling out boat shops. Never thought she'd be so on board. I think I better act quick before she thinks about it too much.
where you coming from and which dealers you looking at? Bought mine in Jax.
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With a family of four, sea hunt. No question. Whalers are nice but 170 won’t do for four people.
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There is a boat dealer in Ocala Fl that has 3 Blackfin boats on their lot. 1 is a single engine. Possibly a boat that is available sooner. I don't really know to much about Blackfin boats though.

just looked it up: Millers Boat Center
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Man, good luck finding a boat, they are all great! IF you get your kids involved with boating and fishing, you will be a rich rich man and you won't ever regret a minute spent with kids in the outdoors, guaranteed. Report back from time to time and let us know how it goes.
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Like stated above, Whalers are too pricey for what you want.
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Not much to add other than I was in your boat about 3 months ago, and my boat does double duty for fishing and family of 4. 17 just isnít going to do it. Wound up buying a new 20 foot Pioneer because the used market was rediculous. Itís been great for the family, and great for freshwater stripers, and we have crappie fished out of it in the last month, but Iíll admit I feel a little rediculous fishing crappie out of it...feels like I brought a howitzer to a gunfight when Iím casting corks out of the thing.
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The 17 is not the way to go. I had a 19 ft Sea Hunt and loved it until I had 6 adults in it, that only happened once. Even fishing with 4 in it was real tight. Tidewater LXF 210 will bring you in under $60k with a t-top, trailer, fully loaded with a 200hp upgrade also.
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Originally Posted by Tennessean View Post
where you coming from and which dealers you looking at? Bought mine in Jax.
We are in Orlando for a little spring break vacation. I actually live in Augusta Ga. I think the nearest dealer to me is about 1.5 hrs away in SC. :/ - I did see a place in Jax that had a boat in stock. I may end up there!

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With a family of four, sea hunt. No question. Whalers are nice but 170 wonít do for four people.
Glad I asked haha. Thank you for the reply!

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There is a boat dealer in Ocala Fl that has 3 Blackfin boats on their lot. 1 is a single engine. Possibly a boat that is available sooner. I don't really know to much about Blackfin boats though.

just looked it up: Millers Boat Center
Ok i'll check that out. Thank you!

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Man, good luck finding a boat, they are all great! IF you get your kids involved with boating and fishing, you will be a rich rich man and you won't ever regret a minute spent with kids in the outdoors, guaranteed. Report back from time to time and let us know how it goes.
Thanks for that. I will! Hopefully with photos filled with fish :D

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Like stated above, Whalers are too pricey for what you want.
Ok yeah. I was thinking so. Not sure how I ended up down that road, but once I started comparing it just didn't seem right. Thanks!

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Not much to add other than I was in your boat about 3 months ago, and my boat does double duty for fishing and family of 4. 17 just isnít going to do it. Wound up buying a new 20 foot Pioneer because the used market was rediculous. Itís been great for the family, and great for freshwater stripers, and we have crappie fished out of it in the last month, but Iíll admit I feel a little rediculous fishing crappie out of it...feels like I brought a howitzer to a gunfight when Iím casting corks out of the thing.
Raaahaha... That's hilarious. That actually sounds like my style!

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The 17 is not the way to go. I had a 19 ft Sea Hunt and loved it until I had 6 adults in it, that only happened once. Even fishing with 4 in it was real tight. Tidewater LXF 210 will bring you in under $60k with a t-top, trailer, fully loaded with a 200hp upgrade also.
Ok cool. I will look into that one also. Thank you for the input! I think i will officially scratch the 17 off the list!


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I would choose the Sea Hunt Ultra 219 out of that group. It does not have a lot of deadrise--so will not ride as well going Into chop as a boat with more dead rise, such as 20 to 24*. It will be a bit more stable when static and drifting or at anchor. Also be a little more economical to run than a boat with more dead rise. My fishing boat is usually for two of us and the Caracal Cat serves us well. If I was fishing more people I would want a bigger boat. We only have cushions on the leaning post/seat and over the bait well which is forward of the console. The cat tends to have a better ride in up to 2 1/2 to 3' chop. than monohulls in the same size or even several feet longer.
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I would choose the Sea Hunt Ultra 219 out of that group. It does not have a lot of deadrise--so will not ride as well going Into chop as a boat with more dead rise, such as 20 to 24*. It will be a bit more stable when static and drifting or at anchor. Also be a little more economical to run than a boat with more dead rise. My fishing boat is usually for two of us and the Caracal Cat serves us well. If I was fishing more people I would want a bigger boat. We only have cushions on the leaning post/seat and over the bait well which is forward of the console. The cat tends to have a better ride in up to 2 1/2 to 3' chop. than monohulls in the same size or even several feet longer.
Ah ok, good to know! I spoke with a dealer today. You can no longer get a 2021 sea hunt. 2022's are on order and they estimate a 9% price increase which will push it right outside my price range. Ugh!
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Budget is always key. You mentioned Sea Hunt but have you looked at Sportsman, Tidewater, Key West, and Sea Fox? All are in the same tier and fit your budget. Sea Fox is not what they used to be and have come along way. I had a 228 commander and it was a great boat for the money. We moved up in size was the only reason we sold it.
Look around and be patient, a fairly new, gently used will come up for sale but be ready to move on one. No boats in that class last long for sale.
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Originally Posted by T2CH View Post
Budget is always key. You mentioned Sea Hunt but have you looked at Sportsman, Tidewater, Key West, and Sea Fox? All are in the same tier and fit your budget. Sea Fox is not what they used to be and have come along way. I had a 228 commander and it was a great boat for the money. We moved up in size was the only reason we sold it.
Look around and be patient, a fairly new, gently used will come up for sale but be ready to move on one. No boats in that class last long for sale.
Thanks! I will check these out. I actually just discovered Sportsman. A dealer local to me actually sells them 0.o - That Open 212 looks perfect and is actually a better fit for me than the Sea Hunt from what I can tell (flip up back bench & larger livewell for bait). I'll reach out to the dealer tomorrow and see what my options are on that one.

I greatly appreciate the response and info!
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I just wanted to thank everyone again and let you all know that I've decided on the Sportsman Open 212. I can buy it locally, get it customized, still get 2021 pricing, and still have a little bit of summer left when I get it. I go tomorrow to put my deposit down.

Any last words before I sign my life away? Lol
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Hello flashsplat,
Congratulations, enjoy. That is a big plus that you are getting it locally. They look very nice.

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