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Old 03-07-2021, 10:06 AM
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So I got a Wellcraft "180 Fisherman" a couple weeks back in a trade, before anyone is concerned I wanted a project and this was honeslty the cheapest and nicest project I would find.
The deck is shot, the outboard is a parts pieces, and the trailer needs work. But the hull and transom are solid, at least as far as I know till I cut out the deck.
I use quotations on the "180 Fisherman" because I got an inkling that the console and seat were added later to replace the originals.
Old 03-07-2021, 10:14 AM
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I'll add photos once I hit 10 posts because it won't let me yet.
But got a question on deck core material, I know the classic choice is to use marine plywood, but only local marine plywood is $109 for a 4x8 of 3/4". Vs Carbon Cores Honeycomb composite deck material being I think $106 a sheet of 4x8 of 5/8" delivered or the cheapest and sketchiest option of the Baltic Birch being $52 for a 4x8 of 5/8".

I'm wanting to use 5/8" material for my deck and before anyone talks about it Coosa Board is out of my budget.
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Here's it the first night, honestly amazed I made it back in one piece.
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Little bit of pressure washing does wonders, but theres a lot to be done, the deck is soft and the console has keyholed out most of the screw holes.
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Removed about 20 gallons of leaves and detritus to get to this point.

Removed most of the "original" hardware keeping most of the teak accents. The bench seat isnt orginal and was haphazardly attached to the deck.
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Well this doesnt look good, its not the orginal fuel tank though and looks in good shape besides being dirty. Can see immediately that stringers are damaged by screws from the added seat and how the tank was secured down.

The fuel tank panel was a bit wet.
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After some scraping its looking a lit better. For anyone whos going to reuse the orginal skin, get the chisel attachments for a sawzaw itll eat through the wood so quick. Took maybe 10 minutes to get most of the wood off. Just be carefull with angling the saw too high or youll cause it to kick.

Got the old rusted shorelander winch replaced


Removed the old rollers with 4 2x6 bunks

Also rewired and put in new lights on the trailer.
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Deck has been cut out and the mess under eath has been exposed.

Used a turbo nozzle on the pressure washer to cut out most if the foam. Its messy but works. Easier then trying chunk everything out.

Orginal turbonozzle broke so had to use the solid 0° nozzle to just slice chunks of foam off.

98% of the foam gone and wetvac'd out of the hull. Some sections were dry while others were waterlogged and incredibly heavy.

Removed the old shot outboard, had someone come by and grab it as a parts motor, just glad for it to be gone.

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Interesting project - what year is your boat 1990’s? The stringers don’t really look too bad in the pictures. Thanks for posting.
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Originally Posted by Tiger51 View Post
Interesting project - what year is your boat 1990’s? The stringers don’t really look too bad in the pictures. Thanks for posting.
It's an 1984, the glass is good with no delamination. But the cores which were what I'm assuming solid cedar when layed are rotted out for the most part. Some sections just brown muck other parts very punky wood. Honestly wish they were all just rot, be easier to clean out that way.
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Definitely the original console for that boat.

Wellcraft did also offer them with that style seat, but the one I had was the dual pedestal seats.

Got mine new in '86, but that year Wellcraft used a split bow rail. I'll bet yours is a year or 2 older. Most everything else about yours looks very familiar.

Had mine for 16 years and took it offshore into the GOM distances that Bay Boats like that were never intended to go.

The fuel tank hatch was very susceptible to wood rot as you found out.

You're making great progress, keep at it!

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Originally Posted by mackerel View Post
Definitely the original console for that boat.

Wellcraft did also offer them with that style seat, but the one I had was the dual pedestal seats.

Got mine new in '86, but that year Wellcraft used a split bow rail. I'll bet yours is a year or 2 older. Most everything else about yours looks very familiar.

Had mine for 16 years and took it offshore into the GOM distances that Bay Boats like that were never intended to go.

The fuel tank hatch was very susceptible to wood rot as you found out.

You're making great progress, keep at it!

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Yeah once I removed the bench seat I saw the previous holes for the pedestal seats. The hatch has raw wood open with the cutout and the screw holes without sealant definitely didnt help
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Transom is rotted out so that got dug out, again found some screw holes without sealant, the previous owners were honestly terrible.

Cleaned up the interior and was trying to just dig out in the rotten transom with a chainsaw but that wasnt working that great. Ended up cutting out the interior skin, then removed the last of the wood. You would think the wood at the very bottom would be the most water logged due to gravity but that last bit was the toughest stuff.

Scored a deal for repowering. Supposedly problematic, but compression is good on this 2000 V6 175HP Mercury. Thing is pristine and cost me all of $800. It was well taken care of and serviced regularly. Hoping it was just a fuel problem but we'll see later once the transom is rebuilt.

Grinding and gutting of the interior. Most of the stringers had gaps and wood exposed. Its no wonder they were all so water logged and rotten. Ive decided im going to try my hand at pouring the transom along with the stringers. I've got plenty off glass and resin to seal everything and then to recap everything after pouring.
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I think that console with the rod holders on the side is from late 90’s.

I always loved the 20’ CC fisherman. I pass one rotting on the trailer now and then and always think about stopping.

thanks for posting your project. Best threads on the site.
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Cleaned out stringers

Plugged the holes in prep of pouring the transom

All the stringers are open to the transom like this now im deciding if i should close of the stringers to keep the transoms compound from running into the stringers. Im planning on pouring the stringers as well though. So would it be better to let the stringers and transom be poured together at the same time and be one solid unit vs a transom and stringers seperated by a layer of fiberglass.

Other thing done was fully draining the fuel tank of the old cruddy fuel. There was about 8 gallons in there with most of it still being a pale yellow color with some being a brownish orange. Exterior looks pretty good on the tank interior looks shiny except for some spots of discoloration on the bottom of the tank.
should I swap the tank out or run with it till it goes. There aren't any leaks as far as I can tell, didn't have any fuel come out with the water that drained from the pressure washing removal of the foam either.

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I did the transom and stringers in my 89 V20 fisherman. Bought the boat and used it for a whole summer . I went to mount a transducer on it in the off season . When I took the old screws out water drained with it..... A lot of water. I never would have guessed the transom was soft I have a 150 etec on back and never saw any signs of flexing. When I cut the inside skin out there was almost no wood left it just looked like compost. Pretty stout little boat keeps you dry unless you're in a quartering sea with a decent wind.
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I think you would be better off separating the stringer from the transom. When you pour the transom its just going to run out into the stringer.

Are you using Seacast or Arjay? other?
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Im using carbonbond, but i mean if both are going to be cast wouldnt them being solid together be stronger? Or is it in the overkill territory.
Also yeah the hull on these things are great just the guts were a bit meh. Transom out skin near the top is about a quarter inch thick and at the base near the drain plug its about 3/4" thick,
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I always liked the 18 fisherman. It's a great all around fishing platform and handles well too.
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Originally Posted by MrFish49 View Post
Im using carbonbond, but i mean if both are going to be cast wouldnt them being solid together be stronger? Or is it in the overkill territory.
Also yeah the hull on these things are great just the guts were a bit meh. Transom out skin near the top is about a quarter inch thick and at the base near the drain plug its about 3/4" thick,
I like the idea of the stringer and transom being cast together but don't see how you are going to do it.

The stringers are going to be tabbed to the transom, that will hold them together.

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