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Old 02-10-2021, 11:44 AM
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I'm getting to the point where I'm interested in starting possibly another career now or even down the road. Marine surveying has always interested me. But how do you realistically get started doing this? From what I can tell, there's no real schooling. Anybody know how to get started on that career path? Thx

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02-10-2021, 12:24 PM
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1) be absolutely full of yourself
2) know nothing about boats and be unwilling to learn.

we have a in-house surveyor at work... that’s pretty much his deal. He’s 23, from Oklahoma, never worked on commercial vessels, but can tell you how your doing it wrong.


we love showing him he don’t know shit.
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sub'd.. not for now but something i have always been interested in as well.
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Find an older, successful surveyor to apprentice from if you want to be successful, just like any other skilled profession.

Take ABYC classes, get your captains license, determine what kind of surveying you want to do; yachts, ships, etc. Education is key, your personal opinion not so much.
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1) be absolutely full of yourself
2) know nothing about boats and be unwilling to learn.

we have a in-house surveyor at work... that’s pretty much his deal. He’s 23, from Oklahoma, never worked on commercial vessels, but can tell you how your doing it wrong.


we love showing him he don’t know shit.
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There is a school and a very good one at that... https://www.chapman.org/
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would defiantly interfere with fishing
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Originally Posted by capt.holiday View Post
1) be absolutely full of yourself
2) know nothing about boats and be unwilling to learn.

we have a in-house surveyor at work... that’s pretty much his deal. He’s 23, from Oklahoma, never worked on commercial vessels, but can tell you how your doing it wrong.


we love showing him he don’t know shit.
does this guy have any accreditations from NAMS, SAMS, ABYC, etc
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Originally Posted by capt.holiday View Post
1) be absolutely full of yourself
2) know nothing about boats and be unwilling to learn.

we have a in-house surveyor at work... that’s pretty much his deal. He’s 23, from Oklahoma, never worked on commercial vessels, but can tell you how your doing it wrong.


we love showing him he don’t know shit.
That's just your average 23 year old on everything, period. I've got two of them, hence username DoubleDose
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I've been a surveyor for 34 years. Mostly retired now. The advice above is good, but barely scratches what you need to know. Way too much to type here. If you are serious send me a PM and we can talk. I've trained over a dozen surveyors....
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Here is the list of things to do:

1; moisture meter [ it doesn’t really have to work , just look good .]
2; plastic hammer [ get a used one so it looks like you did a lot of boats ]
3; Magic 8 ball [ when client call and asks questions , just spin the ball ]
4: lawyer [ write a 3 page clause in small print, so you are not responsible for anything,]
5: don’t let client watch you work [ new THT rule ]


that should do it.
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If you are serious about getting into surveying you either need to find a seasoned AMS to take you under his/her wing, or you need to go to school. Chapmans is a great school if you want to learn about surveying. They do have limited slots and they do book up quickly, so if you are serious, give them a call and speak to Bruce.
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Not sure I would hire anyone with just "book knowledge". I would want someone who grew up in boat yards, worked in boat building, had a boating career and then maybe took a course to fill in the gaps.

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Seems most of them just print a box of business cards and have at it, good luck
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Wonder what the average income is, best ways to drum up customers, etc?
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Originally Posted by P91473 View Post
There is a school and a very good one at that... https://www.chapman.org/
Yes for $5000 and in 180 hours they will teach you all you need to know about surveying!
Dubbed "The Industry Standard," this program will prepare you to enter the field of marine surveying as a confident professional. You will be able to prepare vessel appraisals for condition and value in the purchase or sale of vessels. You will also be able to assist insurance companies in obtaining an insurance value and a "to do" list to make the vessel insurable. A great prerequisite to insurance adjusting.
Sorry for being facetious. We bought a 42' MY in Stuart FL over 20 years ago. The marine surveyor who was recommended was a "teacher" at Chapman's. I am not sure if that person was just basically incompetent, or was in cahoots with the seller and selling broker. Long story short, I asked a lot of questions during sea trial and survey because some things didn't look right. (I have always done my own surveys, but this was a twin engine MY, outside of my expertise with sailboats.). He missed that the boat had been sunk, explained away two major repair areas in the hull, we discovered later that when the boat had gone on the rocks that the starboard strut was driven up there the hull, and a patch, inside the hull, was applied--so that even in the surveyor's photos, you could see that there was an improper repair done. The 200 gallon water tank had been wrapped in epoxy and glass cloth. To top it off, a diesel tank was leaking and there was a beach towel stuffed under the tank to catch the leak...I was able to trace the boat's history, as well as obtain another survey done for a person on a forum I was on, who rejected the boat for cause---it had been sunk...and salvaged. The selling broker knew that and had seen the other survey.

This surveyor's name is no longer listed in SAMS list of Marine Surveyors in Florida. Maybe things have improved at Chapmans. But there is no way anyone can become a surveyor in 180 hours of class room work.

Get ABYC certifications, do a lot of reading, maybe even take some courses from WestLawn on naval architecture, take courses on FLIR and ultrasound, & apprentice with a very good marine surveyor. You will work long hours, crawl into some pretty grungy places, and not make a lot of money, If. you are dedicated and smart at some point you will have learned enough to be a good marine surveyor.
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Go to the surveyor websites and click Become a Surveyor..

https://www.marinesurvey.org/faqs/#BecomeSurveyor
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Couple of years on here should be enough.
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Couple of years on here should be enough.
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After watching the first surveyor I used, I could confidently do everything he did. I created a master check list of items from multiple surveyor's sample reports. The only reason I employ a surveyor now is because lenders require it. A run of the mill surveyor doesn't do anything magical IMO.

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