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Old 11-26-2020, 02:44 PM
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Default Nordhavn 40 or Leopard Cat 43 - Which one and why?

Nordhavn range is EXTREMELY enticing. But the draft and stability of the LC is fantastic, as is the space.

Let's hear it.
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Nordhavn all the way. You can fuel it up and head across the ocean. A gale can appear when you are 1200 miles offshore and you know you will survival it.

if you are planning of using it for long journeys across large bodies of what then go with the Nordhavn.
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
Nordhavn range is EXTREMELY enticing. But the draft and stability of the LC is fantastic, as is the space.

Let's hear it.

I would never use the range of the Nordhavn, so I take the comfort of the LC.
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If you answer the 'Why' you need a different boat, then someone might have a shot at the 'Which one'.
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Ocean crossing and long term cruising--the Nordhavn. Leopard Cat--speed, space and short range--coastal at higher speeds. There is no comparison. Totally different boats for different uses..
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Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
If you answer the 'Why' you need a different boat, then someone might have a shot at the 'Which one'.
That's a very hard picture to draw because usage varies. On one hand a trip through the Panama Canal and up to Bartlett Cove, AK...

And that boat is probably the absolute pinnacle for a trip like that. However in areas of the Bahamas the LC is far better choice due to draft and other variables. Doing the Great Loop on the Nord is questionable without some reasonable modifications.

The Nordhavn will need a gyro or some other stabilization to be even close to the stability of the LC... and there is far more living space on the LC.

The biggest, factor - above all others - is that the LC can, if it needs to, get someplace with "some" sense of urgency... the Nord will get there - eventually. Although I have NO desire to go faster than the speed of the Nord, I prefer to know that I can, if I have to.

Hence this post. So what do you say now?
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Maybe combine both? This one is awesome and the build thread was well documented. Awesome boat by an awesome builder.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/201...maran-3735534/
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Originally Posted by captainmarknc View Post
Maybe combine both? This one is awesome and the build thread was well documented. Awesome boat by an awesome builder.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/201...maran-3735534/

That's a heck of a boat. Was there an issue with engine access?
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
That's a heck of a boat. Was there an issue with engine access?
Not that I know of, does look tight. Builder said he could go with bigger engines for a sportfish; guess it depends on the engine footprint.

If I bought that boat, I think I would at least put doors on the cabinets. I know they were going for low weight, but I prefer cabinets. LOL
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I’m not seeing how you could make any comparison at all. After saying they both float, they do not have much in common.
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Nordhavn is what I’m buying when I hit Powerball.
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Because of the width, not sure the Leopard Cat would be a good choice for the loop.
Nordhavn draft would be a problem as well for the loop.
Probably do your other cruises, then buy a different boat for the loop.
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I was all over the LC 43 as I want to do the Caribbean and Panama Canal in the next 18 months. Then I talked to an owner out of Fort Lauderdale on the trawler forum. He said it was a very uncomfortable ride anything 3 ft and over. Got me thinking. Now I am very close to pulling the trigger on a Kady Krogen 42 whaleback. I think the layout flows much better then the Nordhavn in similar size. Will do the Bahamas for a few months next cruising season to learn the ropes and boat.
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You can cross oceans on either, the Leopards until recently were delivered on their own bottoms from SA to the Caribbean and Florida (you can still specify that option)

The only issues with a cat are that they are old sensitive (but so big it’s easy to want to overload them), they are more challenging to find a place in a marina (most you’ll be on the end of the T and paying a premium), and if you get stuck in an epic storm and take something huge on the beam the stability vanishes completely and you end up upside down and will not self right (exceedingly minuscule chance of this if you plan properly)

advantages are much more space (50% more) much more comfortable (you have to go to the Nordhavn 475 to get a master berth not in the bow), ability to run at crazy efficient displacement speed but you can drop the hammer and get out of the way of something particularly bad if you need to. You’ll never get past 10kn in an under 50’ Nordhavn. And stability, the Nordhavn active stabilization works when moving (one of the more common maintenance items from the owner blogs over read) but does nothing for stability at anchor, the cat has a distinct advantage there.

admiral and I are going through the same process (53PC vs Nordhavn 475 or Selene 50+) and although we love the look of the Nordhavn I believe the 53PC will end up being what we do.
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Nordhavn

https://archive.nordhavn.com/egret/
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Nordhavn is what I plan on sailing away with. Not literally sailing, of course. But I'm willing to sell my house and move on board at this moment. I think the 47 is the smallest I could go, although the 43 could be considered if the price is right.
The 43, in my opinion, is worth the modest price increase. The 43 gives you a dedicated captains seat in the pilothouse whereas the 40 only has the bench seating up there. Yes, you'll be in autopilot on most significant passages, but I still would much rather have a legit captains chair over sitting way back away from the wheel on the guest seating.
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In the spirit of THT, I will ignore the fact that you asked about 2 specific boats....and add, have a look at the Fathom 40.

https://www.parkislemarine.com/fathom-index




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Originally Posted by Macrophylla View Post

advantages are much more space (50% more) much more comfortable (you have to go to the Nordhavn 475 to get a master berth not in the bow),
the N43 has a queen size master amidship. And doesn't even have a stateroom in the bow. Almost positive that's the standard config on the 43.

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In the spirit of THT, I will ignore the fact that you asked about 2 specific boats....and add, have a look at the Fathom 40.

https://www.parkislemarine.com/fathom-index
The Fathom is a sweet boat and might be just right for a Great Loop trip, but it's definitely more of a coastal cruiser with only 400 gallons of fuel and without the redundancy features of the Nordhavn.
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Staying in the GoM/Caribbean/East Coast of North America? Leopard.

Cruising the world? Nordhavn.
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Interesting read on the lack of helm seat in the 40. I don't love not having the seat either... but it is an amazing boat.

[PUP] Nordhavn 40 helm chair, autopilots

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