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Old 11-26-2020, 10:09 AM
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So yesterday I gave my deposit I'm committed now. Going from Suzuki 4-cylinder 200s to 300s. Notice that the gear ratio is different on the 300. What props are you guys running with suzuki 300s? Thanks
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One of you WW 28 owners asked about the 4 banger 200s some time back. I referred that person to a local guide here in Key Largo. Charlie with Against The Grain charters. Was that you? If so, why the switch to more power so soon?
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Look up coores14 on this site. He did refurb/repower a few years ago on a 28WW w/ new Zukes
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Originally Posted by Scott1115 View Post
Look up coores14 on this site. He did refurb/repower a few years ago on a 28WW w/ new Zukes

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Old 11-26-2020, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnMeLooseFLKeys View Post
One of you WW 28 owners asked about the 4 banger 200s some time back. I referred that person to a local guide here in Key Largo. Charlie with Against The Grain charters. Was that you? If so, why the switch to more power so soon?
No it wasn't me. I moved and my runs offshore are longer now. Bought an ice machine last year. So I run much heavier. Suzuki trade in value is great.
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A friend is running eco 23s with cup added by leading edge
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Iím running Bravo 26s.
People scoff at me when I tell them that, but I have no reason to lie.
I would not run them if I was heavy all of the time, but the majority of my usage has me pretty light. I can spin them up to about 53-5400, a little less with some load.
I'm well within rpm range for sure but I do realize Iím on the lower end of what Iím comfortable with.
Iíve tried the 24s and could bang the rev limiters quickly and I just didnít like the feel of the props.
Also tried the stock Zuke 23 three blades. Or was it 24? I forget. Either way they were awful. Like, AWFUL. Could barely get on plane or stay on plane at lower speeds in any sort of sea. Ventilated like mofos. And that was before I raised my engines a hole.

Ideally I think a Bravo 25 would be awesome. I will say that Iím waiting for a good deal to pop up on some ECO 23s because Iím really interested in trying those. Iím thinking theyíll be a little short, but maybe with some love from Rich at Leading Edge they can be dialed in just right. He worked magic on my last boat.
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I have a set of eco 22s now. 4 cylinder gear ratio is 2.50, 300s I think is 2.00
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Your going to pickup a lot more speed with the larger engines, and youíll have more power to spin them with the different ratio, so those ecos might be perfect. Or at least a great place to start.
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I had eco 21s on my Jupiter 31 with twin df300s and touched the rev limiters at 57mph pretty light. Iíd think youíll be a decent bit faster even loaded but if you run heavy all the time those 22s should at least be in the ballpark like Rumrunner said.
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Call Norman at WW. Iím on the board and will have to make the decision soon for power. I asked him about Suzukiís and difficulty propping them and he said Suzuki props, motors all the way down and then up 1 hole and always sets them with toe out to stop porpoising and ventilation.
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I have to say, on my Concept, 2nd to highest hole, 3/4 inch toe out pretty much remedied all cavitation and chine walk I was experiencing on the 60+ mph range. Rides like an arrow now.
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Originally Posted by Shift Work View Post
Call Norman at WW. Iím on the board and will have to make the decision soon for power. I asked him about Suzukiís and difficulty propping them and he said Suzuki props, motors all the way down and then up 1 hole and always sets them with toe out to stop porpoising and ventilation.
I heard suzuki had some props that worked pretty well. Thought I'd ask here first before calling Norman.
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When I was looking for prop advice for my 200s (I was the guy who was referred to the charter captain in Key Largo), I called Norm and Iíll be honest with you, he doesnít strike me as much of a prop nerd. He recommended Zuke props which have a poor performance record, from what Iíve read on here.

I ended up with 23 Ecos at the recommendation of another THTer and he nailed it, they are awesome. I would run the 22 Ecos on your 300s first and then see what kind of adjustments you need from there.

Iím in St. Pete if you wanted to try my 23s at some point.

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