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frogbite 10-12-2020 11:12 AM

Another example where the kill lanyard should have been used
 
https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/...smashing-docks

ZMAN617 10-12-2020 12:01 PM

I would like to know, who really uses a kill lanyard on a offshore boat over 25' long?
I don't nor can I recall any boat that I have been on where the captain wore one. Yes, I can see if the captain is going solo that makes sense. But, in reality, who wears one?

LSCboater 10-12-2020 12:04 PM

Video of it

https://www.today.com/video/video-sh...ne-93667397998

Three dudes on a boat is not the photo shoot I want to see

Burgmane 10-12-2020 12:06 PM

When “doing it for the ‘Gram” goes wrong

smokeandoakum 10-12-2020 12:08 PM

my boat's a 21-ft long CC. I always wear mine when I'm alone or with non-boaters.

Chham57 10-12-2020 12:28 PM

It would probably be in the boat manufacturers interest to offer a wireless option on their boat packages as part of their “ Electronics Packages”. They add an option with better margin, buyer walks away with a more convenient safety feature.

Clinker 10-12-2020 12:37 PM

Every reason to wear one and no reason not to.

I nearly always used them and one of the few times I didnít, only pottering in a harbour in a SIB, I fell out and caught my foot in the prop.

Needless to say I always always wear one now!
Others have not been so lucky - and this incident could have been carnage in a busier environment.

wmalloy382 10-12-2020 01:01 PM

Only time i have ever worn one is when riding alone and the weather is cold. And, I don't know of a single person who got behind the helm and strapped one on in 45 years of boating,

Just being honest


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Muchalucka 10-12-2020 01:26 PM

I always have it attached if I am out alone, or with any kids or non-experienced boaters on board. My biggest fear is leaving the console and someone bumps the throttle. I don't want to accidentally send my kids and/or friends to Cuba at WOT and possibly end up on the Today show.

Every time we start a trip, I tell everyone... if something happens to me, just pull this red cord to kill the engine, when the boat stops throw the bow anchor. I think that covers 95% of being able to get help if you are staying very near shore or back bay.

I also wear some kind of PFD whenever the motor is on, no exceptions. The newer automatic inflating PFDs are so small and light, there is really no excuse. You don't see them hauling many dead bodies out of the inlet wearing a PFD with a lanyard attached to it.

Smoke n Mirrors 10-12-2020 01:34 PM

I am redoing a boat now with new power, dash, etc., and added the Fell MOB for only $199, I have to wear something that is in essence a Fitbit, I never used to wear it, but been seeing more and more of this. I know in Lake Worth not long ago a seasoned tournament team had a similar incident. There is also a very well known company out of Stuart where this incident happened that does photo shoots for many boat manufacturers, hoping it is not htem and whomever it is that they ended up safe. I hate the thought of this happening offshore. Anyone remember former Miami Dolphins fullback Rob Kronrad, having to swim back to shore from several miles offshore when he fell off while trolling a few years ago?

SomedayIsle 10-12-2020 01:44 PM

The kill lanyard is too restrictive and impractical in most circumstances, as we tend to move around..

The Fell MOB is the solution if you want to ensure the highest level of safety for your passengers if you fall overboard!

I am very impressed with the product, and wear the FOB on my slacks (clip on).

Sproly 10-12-2020 01:50 PM

Not a fan at all of the traditional kill lanyard. For every life it saves you have 10 more instances of bad situations turning for the worse because of whoever is piloting the vessel jumping away from the helm to throw a flotation device or a loose one falling out and killing your engines in a situation where having power is the only thing keeping you upright. In the heat of the moment the last thing anyone is concerned with is checking the kill lanyard when trying to figure out why your engines died and won't start back up in the rush of a crisis situation.

brobin 10-12-2020 01:58 PM

On my previous boat and my new WC280 I installed the Fells Marine MOB+ which is under $200 and, IMHO, the biggest bargain in boating. If I'm out alone and get tossed I'd hate to be treading water watching my boat sail off into the sunset. Even as old as I am, I can swim a few hundred feet to reboard. The engines will stop if 50' away from the fob (a little over 1 second @30MPH) or within 5 seconds of being underwater. Worst case, in 5 seconds at 30MPH the boat will be 220 ft away (44'/sec) when it shuts off plus a bit more to stop moving. If the lanyard isn't going to be used and, let's face it it isn't, then an electronic MOB system is the way to go. Another benefit is that additional fobs can be worn by crew and pets. The engine can be restarted 6 seconds after shutdown so remaining crew can get to the MOB. We all think it can't happen to us but Schlitz happens.

frogbite 10-12-2020 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by ZMAN617 (Post 14130823)
I would like to know, who really uses a kill lanyard on a offshore boat over 25' long?
I don't nor can I recall any boat that I have been on where the captain wore one. Yes, I can see if the captain is going solo that makes sense. But, in reality, who wears one?

Heh, I have a 26' boat and I wear mine, but not all the time. I would though if running at high speeds and making passes, I would have it on for sure. Usually it is on when I have kids in the boat and in the river. I need to do more reading about these MOBs. Don't know much about them but when I bought my ACR PLB device, I came across them.

69Mach390 10-12-2020 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by ZMAN617 (Post 14130823)
I would like to know, who really uses a kill lanyard on a offshore boat over 25' long?
I don't nor can I recall any boat that I have been on where the captain wore one. Yes, I can see if the captain is going solo that makes sense. But, in reality, who wears one?

I never really have, but I keep hearing these stories and it makes me want to.

See the Boyton Beach video a couple weeks ago? Definitely had a kill switch attached.

Whatís interesting about this story is they had to ďdive under waterĒ to not get run over...... itís a good thing no kids on the boats with life vests on! They couldnít dive down.

Lifeislarge 10-12-2020 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by brobin (Post 14131126)
On my previous boat and my new WC280 I installed the Fells Marine MOB+ which is under $200 and, IMHO, the biggest bargain in boating. If I'm out alone and get tossed I'd hate to be treading water watching my boat sail off into the sunset. Even as old as I am, I can swim a few hundred feet to reboard. The engines will stop if 50' away from the fob (a little over 1 second @30MPH) or within 5 seconds of being underwater. Worst case, in 5 seconds at 30MPH the boat will be 220 ft away (44'/sec) when it shuts off plus a bit more to stop moving. If the lanyard isn't going to be used and, let's face it it isn't, then an electronic MOB system is the way to go. Another benefit is that additional fobs can be worn by crew and pets. The engine can be restarted 6 seconds after shutdown so remaining crew can get to the MOB. We all think it can't happen to us but Schlitz happens.

None of thatís going to help you if you go overboard in 3-5 with wind and current. Your boat is going to get away from you way faster than you can swim. Better have a PLB as well as your MOB. At least it wonít keep going under power Į\_(ツ)_/Į

joeballow 10-12-2020 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sproly (Post 14131092)
Not a fan at all of the traditional kill lanyard. For every life it saves you have 10 more instances of bad situations turning for the worse because of whoever is piloting the vessel jumping away from the helm to throw a flotation device or a loose one falling out and killing your engines in a situation where having power is the only thing keeping you upright. In the heat of the moment the last thing anyone is concerned with is checking the kill lanyard when trying to figure out why your engines died and won't start back up in the rush of a crisis situation.

Curious where you came up with those numbers. Sounds about as realistic as those saying it's safer to not wear a seatbelt so you can get thrown away from the crashing car. I'm terrible about wearing my lanyard, but I'm pretty confident its safer to wear it than not, unless you have seen some statistics I haven't.

vandlor 10-12-2020 02:37 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...f2808afb85.png
I installed this kill switch. I use when alone or with the wife.

frogbite 10-12-2020 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by brobin (Post 14131126)
On my previous boat and my new WC280 I installed the Fells Marine MOB+ which is under $200 and, IMHO, the biggest bargain in boating. If I'm out alone and get tossed I'd hate to be treading water watching my boat sail off into the sunset. Even as old as I am, I can swim a few hundred feet to reboard. The engines will stop if 50' away from the fob (a little over 1 second @30MPH) or within 5 seconds of being underwater. Worst case, in 5 seconds at 30MPH the boat will be 220 ft away (44'/sec) when it shuts off plus a bit more to stop moving. If the lanyard isn't going to be used and, let's face it it isn't, then an electronic MOB system is the way to go. Another benefit is that additional fobs can be worn by crew and pets. The engine can be restarted 6 seconds after shutdown so remaining crew can get to the MOB. We all think it can't happen to us but Schlitz happens.

Watched the YouTube video from Fell's on installing the unit. Looks super simple. In the video, the guy wired it directly to the kill switch, but looking on Amazon, they sell "FELL Marine Mob+ System Multiple Engine Harness". I have twin Zukes, I don't think I would need this if wiring at the kill switch right? I would just insert it at the pigtail where both engines hook in I think.

Muchalucka 10-12-2020 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Lifeislarge (Post 14131196)
None of thatís going to help you if you go overboard in 3-5 with wind and current. Your boat is going to get away from you way faster than you can swim. Better have a PLB as well as your MOB. At least it wonít keep going under power

I gave this lesson to my kids on Saturday. We were anchored 50 feet off a mangrove island and they wanted to jump off the boat a few times before we left. So I let it swing out into the cut where it was deeper and the incoming tide was ripping. Told them to stay close to the boat and go straight to the swim ladder (they all had PFDs on). The one kid who didn't listen screwed around and floated too far back and took 30 seconds to swim 15 feet to the boat from straight back.

I let all the kids try it, and now they understand what I am talking about when I warn them about current and how you can't beat the ocean. Save your energy to keep your face above water and someone will come to you.


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