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Old 09-28-2020, 01:17 PM
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Iím about to pull the trigger on dual Suzuki 200s and are looking for real world pros and cons of fly by wire vs mechanical. Itís about a $2000 dollar difference and donít mind spending the money if there is a significant benefit to fly by wire. If not I can do additional upgrades with the 2k. Thanks.
Old 09-28-2020, 01:23 PM
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I have a single 200 mechanical. Smooth shifting. I have fly by wire yamahas on my other boat. Little difference. I chose not to spend the extra money for electronic shift on the Suzuki. Don't regret it.

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I've had both recently. Mechanical on dual DF140s and shift was very smooth. FBW on new F300 and can certainly tell you arent moving a cable but boat i wanted came with it.. not sure i would have paid the upcharge if i was ordering. YMMV
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We went with the mechanical and gauges. The only item that I miss is the troll speed control, which can be bumped up or down in 50 rpm increments.
But, I do troll with the 250 zuk at around 690 rpm and slightly less than 3 mph. Sometimes, I am a bit faster than I would like for chinook.
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Originally Posted by eastcoastrigs View Post
I’m about to pull the trigger on dual Suzuki 200s and are looking for real world pros and cons of fly by wire vs mechanical. It’s about a $2000 dollar difference and don’t mind spending the money if there is a significant benefit to fly by wire. If not I can do additional upgrades with the 2k. Thanks.
I repowered with a Suzuki DF300APXX fly by wire Spring of 2019 and now have 358 hours on the engine. The fly by wire controls have performed as advertised. I have nothing negative to report. Here is where I differ from the posts that will surely follow, the mechanical controls on my Yamaha F225 that I ran for almost 2000 hours, worked just as well.

Guys will talk about fly by wire being “ night and day” difference from mechanical controls, I have not seen that in my situation, they work perfectly but so did the mechanicals on my F225.

I don’t know if it’s standard or an upgrade I paid for but the “troll mode” feature on my Suzuki is nice if you slow troll. That is a feature that my old mechanical controls obviously did not have. From a rigging standpoint, the fly by wire system is also way easier.

Again absolutely NOTHING at all negative to say about the fly by wire system on my Suzuki. I am not anti fly by wire and have a lot of time in 3 different fly by wire aircraft, making me familiar with the technology dating back 25 years. That doesn’t change the fact that there was nothing negative to say about the performance of the mechanical controls on my old Yamaha F225.

Take into consideration I run a single engine, single control station on a 25’ pilot house boat, other boats, engine configurations etc may vary the situation.

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Thanks appreciate the info so far. Leaning towards mechanical for less chance of problems.
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Originally Posted by debitron View Post
We went with the mechanical and gauges. The only item that I miss is the troll speed control, which can be bumped up or down in 50 rpm increments.
But, I do troll with the 250 zuk at around 690 rpm and slightly less than 3 mph. Sometimes, I am a bit faster than I would like for chinook.
Troll Mode can be installed on Mech Controls.

A DF150AP has the same torque rating a DF 200AP, but 300rpm lower Max HP. The DF 200 and DF 200AP are both the same TQ Ratings.
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Fly by wire all the way. You won’t regret it. Smoothest shifting, troll mode, 1 key, push button starting, engine sync, Man - it just doesn’t get any better!

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I'm running twin 200APs with 345 hours, previous boat had Yamaha 250 mechanical controls. No problems with either, biggest difference is when docking and loading on trailer. The fbw controls shift smoother and don't have any "grinding". Was reluctant to go fbw, but no regrets........so far.
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I will say I had to replace the throttle and shift cables on my 5-year old DF200A with U-Flex Mach Zero and that wasn't exactly cheap paying someone to do it. I also replaced the OEM Suzuki binnacle with Livorsi controls which wasn't cheap either. I probably could have paid for FBW by now but it's working pretty damn well
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freshwater or bay use go with mechincal.

Offshore use want fly by wire
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One thing to look at is rigging cost for whatever instrumentation you want to go with. If you want digital instrumentation anyway you may find that the OTD cost difference is a bit closer.
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I'm just impressed that you can upgrade to dual fly-by-wires for only $2,000 on a pair of twins. That would be a "no brainer" for me as that sounds cheap.
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Originally Posted by Jeepman View Post
freshwater or bay use go with mechincal.

Offshore use want fly by wire
I'm curious to your rationale.
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after running a boat with twin 200AP's, I don't think I could even consider doing another mechanical shift setup. they are beyond smooth
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I dunno... I had mechanical Yamaha SINGLE in the past, now have a fly-by-wire Yamaha SINGLE. Is it nice? sure. Would I pay more for it? No. I don't get the "night and day" comments on it. Maybe in a dual situation it has advantages that I am not seeing.

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Originally Posted by eastcoastrigs View Post
iím about to pull the trigger on dual suzuki 200s and are looking for real world pros and cons of fly by wire vs mechanical. Itís about a $2000 dollar difference and donít mind spending the money if there is a significant benefit to fly by wire. If not i can do additional upgrades with the 2k. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by On the Half Shell View Post
I'm curious to your rationale.
ever have your fly by wire system fail offshore? I have. I know itís never supposed to happen and airplanes have been using it forever but bc of that one failure my boat will get twin 300 mechanical when I repower
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Originally Posted by Rmoody79 View Post
ever have your fly by wire system fail offshore? I have. I know it’s never supposed to happen and airplanes have been using it forever but bc of that one failure my boat will get twin 300 mechanical when I repower
How does that compare with a throttle or gear cable or related linkage/control box breaking while offshore?
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Originally Posted by Moonlighter475 View Post
How does that compare with a throttle or gear cable or related linkage/control box breaking while offshore?
snap a cable and you can still manually get the engines engaged and get home, in my case I lost throttle control with 2 running engines and couldnít engage out of neutral

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