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Old 09-24-2020, 08:05 AM
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Hello All,

Long time Lurker here.

I am looking for an older Fish and Ski boat. I currently have an accepted offer on two.

Boat 1 - First found. 2005 Pro Craft 180 Combo. 150hp Merc, TM , Fish Finder (Lost Transducer) Sits 5 Everything Reportedly works. Need Reupholstered (Looks to be average for the year) .

Boat 2- Just found yesterday, 1999 Champion 190. 200 Evinrude, TM, Fish Finder, Sits 5 Everything Reportedly works, Not sure about upholstery , asked for more pictures.

Somehow neither knows the hours on the boat or motor. Both have trailers.

Both are listed at the same asking price, both have committed to a sale price of $6,350

Thanks in advance
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So you put an offer on two different boats sight unseen and both sellers are assuming that they have a buyer and may be telling others (you hope) that the boat is sold so that you can get it? Or, did you negotiate a price telling the seller that you will then come to make a decision?

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Well neither actually.

i was speaking to the first person, made an offer. He declined because he had another buyer. He came back to me this morning and said his buyer fell through and that he would take that offer.

on the second boat I told him what I would pay and he accepted that but I’ve made no guarantee. This was before the first boat offer was accepted.

i only have appointments to see the boats and a guaranteed price to buy both both are still on the market.

i don’t think this an issue, can you help with the decision on the boats? Or are you here to police business?
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Originally Posted by JamesHa View Post
Well neither actually.

i was speaking to the first person, made an offer. He declined because he had another buyer. He came back to me this morning and said his buyer fell through and that he would take that offer.

on the second boat I told him what I would pay and he accepted that but I’ve made no guarantee. This was before the first boat offer was accepted.

i only have appointments to see the boats and a guaranteed price to buy both both are still on the market.

i don’t think this an issue, can you help with the decision on the boats? Or are you here to police business?
You won't last long here with that "style". Just 'sayin...
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I would look at both boats and then decide which one you like better?

Offer contingent on "satisfactory" sea-trial.

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You know it is a hot boat market when a person makes an offer sight unseen not once but twice!

Assuming upon inspection and survey of hull and motor results are acceptable, I would go with the newer boat with the better motor. But that's just me.
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I would look at both boats and then decide which one you like better?

Offer contingent on "satisfactory" sea-trial
I have done exactly this on the Pro Craft. Tomorrow is when that is scheduled for. Im really more asking which is a better boat in general?

There is nothing on the books for the Champion. But there could be.

One issue for me is that I live hours from either and in different directions.
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Accepting that strange circumstances not entirely of your making find you having an offer accepted on two boats - presumably you told the first guy the situation when he called you back?

What exact engines are we taking of here? Is the Evinrude a Ficht or a traditional carb 2 stroke? Is the Merc an Optimax or a Verado?
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Originally Posted by Classic25 View Post
You won't last long here with that "style". Just 'sayin...
I am pretty sure he is going to be loved 😈
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I don't understand. I'm hours away and find no issue with looking at multiple boats. Or even discussing conditional price. If they as the seller don't like that method they dont have to sell it to me. Fact is that I am finding people rate their boats much more valuable than they really are. Show me a 11k NADA , that has the wrong motor, wrong year, the title still owned by the bank or ex wife or whatever. When their boats really worth 6k ish.

I came here just asking for a which is better boat opinion? Maybe I should not have elaborated the situation?

Im really not sure what Ive done wrong?
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Yes this is correct, both are aware, both are fine. Both dont know things about their boats that they should. Hours etc. Both have a weird situation involved.

Exact Motors are a

2005 150 HP Merc XR6 2 Stroke on the 2005 Pro Craft Combo 180.

2004 200 HP Evinrude e200fslsr (Not sure if 2 or 4 stroke) When I look it up it shows it as a Saltwater Motor , it was obviously a replacement since the boat is a 99 Champion

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Welcome to THT. Most members here are male. Which means if it's a slow fishing or boating day, most would rather argue the semantics of your post rather than be helpful. Call it Salty Old Man Syndrome, if you will.

Since you haven't put eyes on either boat, I'd suggest that experience as your primary factor. The information you've provided (or haven't) makes it hard to do an apples to apples comparison. For example, how do YOU feel about upholstery condition? I'm not really sure how a transducer gets "lost"...was the guy taking it on and off the boat?

Use your eyes to judge the boats and use your ears to judge the sellers.
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The Evinrude would be a 2 Stroke. R
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Originally Posted by Locke N Load View Post
You know it is a hot boat market when a person makes an offer sight unseen not once but twice!

Assuming upon inspection and survey of hull and motor results are acceptable, I would go with the newer boat with the better motor. But that's just me.
who pays for a survey on a $6,000 boat? Lol


anything in that price range is Probaly going to have a lot of issues though, so be ready!
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Get off my dock!!!!!
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End of the day, what matters most is the condition of each vessel and how it's been cared for by the current and previous owners. I would want to know how many different people have owned each boat; how long each seller has had their boat if they're not original owners; why are they selling the boat.

Let's just say a freak of nature occurs and both boats seem to be in the exact same condition.....which probably won't happen.....and you like them both equally based on how they each rode and are set up for your needs.....which also probably won't happen....at that point only, I would see who's willing to offer the greater discount. Since I've said twice "probably won't happen", it should make your decision much simpler when you get in them and out on the water. "Your" boat will let you know it's yours.
Either motor can last you for 10 more years or 10 more days...or maybe 10 more minutes. That's just the nature of the beast.
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Originally Posted by oceantrav View Post
who pays for a survey on a $6,000 boat? Lol


anything in that price range is Probaly going to have a lot of issues though, so be ready!
If the OP isn't pretty well mechanically inclined as it pertains to outboards, he should ABSOLUTELY pay a marine mechanic to inspect them both. No, it's not a "survey", but will result in the important information.
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Originally Posted by JamesHa View Post
I don't understand. I'm hours away and find no issue with looking at multiple boats. Or even discussing conditional price. If they as the seller don't like that method they dont have to sell it to me. Fact is that I am finding people rate their boats much more valuable than they really are. Show me a 11k NADA , that has the wrong motor, wrong year, the title still owned by the bank or ex wife or whatever. When their boats really worth 6k ish.

I came here just asking for a which is better boat opinion? Maybe I should not have elaborated the situation?

Im really not sure what Ive done wrong?
The ProCraft 17Combo was my 1st boat back in 1998. I sold it after 6 years to get a CC. My cousin still owns his 1999 17Combo. After all these years his hull is still in great shape. The build quality must have been pretty good, My experience with the boat when I had mine was that it was very easy to handle and quite fast. Ride was great in glass smooth water but when you got into disturbed water the hull would beat you so hard your insides would hurt. Based on how my cousin’s has held up I can say that, if the ProCraft boat has been well maintained and cared for it should be a pretty good boat. Still, it would be wise to get a boat inspector to take a look at it if you’re serious about buying after sea trials. Good luck with your purchase.
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Originally Posted by JamesHa View Post
Well neither actually.

i was speaking to the first person, made an offer. He declined because he had another buyer. He came back to me this morning and said his buyer fell through and that he would take that offer.

on the second boat I told him what I would pay and he accepted that but I’ve made no guarantee. This was before the first boat offer was accepted.

i only have appointments to see the boats and a guaranteed price to buy both both are still on the market.

i don’t think this an issue, can you help with the decision on the boats? Or are you here to police business?
Wow. Well... you seem to want others to make your decision for you but you don’t like others to tell you what they think. Who you gonna blame when this turns out badly for you?

WHY would anyone make a “firm” promise to buy something used they’ve never inspected....

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Sounds like y'all deserve each other. There's someone on another thread that'd probably let their boat go for same money - after they are done suing their way out of it.
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