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Old 09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
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Looking for a few opinions on here and the reasons why. Looking to re power my 2009 Cape Horn 23T. Boat currently has 200 HPDIS with 1400 hours on them. Looking which motor would better suit my needs of mostly offshore fishing with heavy loads and 258 gallons of fuel. Currently I average 1.4 Mpg on a canyon run cruising between 28 and 32 kt. My current top end is about 54 mph light. I have narrowed it down to these two motors because I can readily get quality dealer service close to my slip. Which motor would be better suited for my style of fishing. Thanks in advance
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Tough call as they are both great engines. Go with whichever local dealer you like the best.
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Price them first. The Price of the Yamaha's might scare you

the 200 Zukes have been very reliable and a great motor;. I bet its atleast 6 to 8 grand difference in price.
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The Yamaha's are very picky with props. Pretty much the Reliance SDS hubs are what works best. So you looking at a smaller prop. The Zuke will turn a bigger prop. Which should help with weight and lower speeds.
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look at merc v6 225s and never look back. no comparison on hp to weight ratio
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I just went through the same and went with the zuks. Almost went with yamahas but I just read too much about how they were known to be weak motors. Also the zuks were considerably cheaper. I could have had yamahas for close to the price of zuks but would have had to re-use my rigging from the hpdis. Decided it best just to get all new and so far the zuks have been great. The low and mid range grunt is impressive for a inline 4 cyl 4 stroke...all around improvement over the hpdis.

Only complaint is Im not huge fan of the zuk props im running...but thats just a matter of trial and error at this point.
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2cnd the part on which ever you have best relationship with dealer. That’s the motor unless the price factor comes in.
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Both good motors, but the Suzuki going to fit your needs better.
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I've owned both Motors. Twin Yamaha 200 on my competition 25. I put about 450 hours on those Motors. No issues. The original ICU had more horsepower. But after the recall probably lost I'm guessing 10% horsepower. Not a strong 200. As of others have mentioned gear ratio doesn't allow for a big prop.
current boat Whitewater 28 2017 Suzuki 200 400 hours. Strong 200 horsepower . big gear case can spin a big prop. Drive shaft corroded onto the power head at 300 hours. The metal doesn't seem to be made of the same quality as Yamaha.
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Originally Posted by tint dude View Post
I've owned both Motors. Twin Yamaha 200 on my competition 25. I put about 450 hours on those Motors. No issues. The original ICU had more horsepower. But after the recall probably lost I'm guessing 10% horsepower. Not a strong 200. As of others have mentioned gear ratio doesn't allow for a big prop.
current boat Whitewater 28 2017 Suzuki 200 400 hours. Strong 200 horsepower . big gear case can spin a big prop. Drive shaft corroded onto the power head at 300 hours. The metal doesn't seem to be made of the same quality as Yamaha.
thanks thatís what Iím looking for. Iím going to look at the specs on the competition and the whitewater to see what is closest to mine
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Assuming you have good service for both I would go Suzuki.
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My dealer sells both and talking to the service manager, the. 175 and 200 Suzuki, 150 and 200 Yamahas are the most trouble free engines they sell.
He said he canít remember the last serious warranty/repair issue they had on those. They sell a lot of those also.

I have a 200 Yamaha and it is not a strong 200, just adequate. I hear a lot of people say there is little difference between the Yamaha 150 and 200 but I drove a boat with both and there is a significant difference in the mid range.

There are tests on the Blue Wave 2800 that show the Suzukis are faster at top end. The Yamahas had better mid range fuel economy.
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Originally Posted by XenScott View Post
My dealer sells both and talking to the service manager, the. 175 and 200 Suzuki, 150 and 200 Yamahas are the most trouble free engines they sell.
He said he canít remember the last serious warranty/repair issue they had on those. They sell a lot of those also.

I have a 200 Yamaha and it is not a strong 200, just adequate. I hear a lot of people say there is little difference between the Yamaha 150 and 200 but I drove a boat with both and there is a significant difference in the mid range.

There are tests on the Blue Wave 2800 that show the Suzukis are faster at top end. The Yamahas had better mid range fuel economy.
thank you very much appreciate it.
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One of my work boats had a 200 Yamaha, and I found it to be a loud engine above around 4400 rpms. Louder than the 225XB that replaced it

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I have a pair of new Yamaha 200's on a Robalo R247. I figure I weigh about 6500 pounds loaded for a day on the water. Props are the standard Reliance 14.25x 18's. With two adults on board, performance almost exactly matches the Yamaha performance bulletin, which can be found here: https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/ho...2015-04-30_odc.

It is a big improvement over the single F300 that I had on a different but identical R247; much better holeshot, faster and more economic cruise, overall better rideability which I attribute both to the extra HP and the extra blade area.

One downside is that the F200's are spec'd for 89 octane fuel, and they need it. They don't run as strong with 87....the more retarded timing map seems to kick in. The F300, on the other hand, ran exactly the same on 87 or 89.

I can't speak to reliability since I only have 50 hours on them, but I expect them to be like my previous Yamaha and the Yamahas of my friends....and that is....pretty darn good.

I like the idea of the V6 mercs in this size range but there is not nearly as many dealer options in my area, and there is virtually no experience in my area with these new motors. Yamaha's rule in my neck of the woods.
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Originally Posted by tint dude View Post
(Suzuki) Drive shaft corroded onto the power head at 300 hours. The metal doesn't seem to be made of the same quality as Yamaha.
I keep reading about the 200 and 300 Zukes with the stuck drive shafts and it's seriously starting to spook me. I'm running a tired set of 200 HPDIs on my 28 Whitewater and I'm really leaning towards the 225 Merc 4 strokes although I've never been a Merc fan.
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My Dealer sells Yamaha.Suzuki and Honda.The service manager told me the Suzuki 200 was a stronger motor than the Yamaha.
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Originally Posted by eastcoastrigs View Post
Looking for a few opinions on here and the reasons why. Looking to re power my 2009 Cape Horn 23T. Boat currently has 200 HPDIS with 1400 hours on them. Looking which motor would better suit my needs of mostly offshore fishing with heavy loads and 258 gallons of fuel. Currently I average 1.4 Mpg on a canyon run cruising between 28 and 32 kt. My current top end is about 54 mph light. I have narrowed it down to these two motors because I can readily get quality dealer service close to my slip. Which motor would be better suited for my style of fishing. Thanks in advance
DF200A swings a bigger prop for better bite. Would be my choice. Just went with a guide out of Venice who loved his Suzuki and didnít plan on leaving it anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by XenScott View Post
My dealer sells both and talking to the service manager, the. 175 and 200 Suzuki, 150 and 200 Yamahas are the most trouble free engines they sell.
He said he canít remember the last serious warranty/repair issue they had on those. They sell a lot of those also.

I have a 200 Yamaha and it is not a strong 200, just adequate. I hear a lot of people say there is little difference between the Yamaha 150 and 200 but I drove a boat with both and there is a significant difference in the mid range.

There are tests on the Blue Wave 2800 that show the Suzukis are faster at top end. The Yamahas had better mid range fuel economy.
do you have the tests for the suszkis and Yamahas? Looked and only saw the Yamaha 200 test
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Originally Posted by burningdaylight View Post
I keep reading about the 200 and 300 Zukes with the stuck drive shafts and it's seriously starting to spook me. I'm running a tired set of 200 HPDIs on my 28 Whitewater and I'm really leaning towards the 225 Merc 4 strokes although I've never been a Merc fan.
I would look at Mercs they look awesome, but I can not get service close to my slip.

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