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Old 08-28-2020, 05:02 PM
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So looking for some opinions. Seriously considering purchasing a new boat with (2) 150 Yamaha outboards. I am thinking of purchasing the boat (new) taking delivery, removing the engines, and replacing them with Mercury's. The boat manufacturer has an exclusivity agreement with Yamaha and I totally understand that, but I (for my own reasons) am a Mercury guy. I am not giving brand specifics on the boat, just looking for some thoughts on the matter. Meaning, if I pull the new motors off the back to replace do you think the Yamaha 150's will sell quickly? They would be new, never run and from what I am told fully transferable warranty. I have nothing against the Yamaha and I have hear nothing but wonderful things about the 150, I just want the Mercury. I have not purchased anything yet and I am not selling anything just looking for thoughts on how quickly/easily these engines would sell in peoples opinions.
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Factory won’t sell the boat without engines?
Old 08-28-2020, 06:27 PM
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No question the engines will sell and for a good price but how good is the question. I think most people would keep the F150’s but understand you prefer Mercury. I don’t recall seeing any dealers selling both Yamaha and Mercury - probably like seeing a Ford Chevy dealership. But if you could just swap the Yamahas for the Mercury’s would be an easy path for you.
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Your market for selling the engines is either local, with someone picking them up with a truck or trailer. OR, you or the buyer will have to deal with the additional costs of crates, shipping, insurance, etc.

In either case, the buyer will need to either install them or pay to have it done.

So, there are too many other variables to answer your question - you don’t even tell us where you are.

Anything will sell at the right price, and you can easily find a willing buyer who will rent a truck and drive a long way if you’re selling at half market price.

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Should be no problem at all doing that.
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Thanks for all the input! All the comments are extremely helpful. I am in NJ and I wish i could just swap them, but unfortunately they will not do that. I also asked about buying boat without any engines but that is not possible either. I hate to have to go through all this but this is one of those things, if I am doing it I want to do it right and make sure I get exactly what I want. I guess once I place the order I will start the marketing. Any suggestions as to what you think a fair price would be? I obviously know they will go for less than normal MSRP and I am 100% fine with that. I see it as a great opportunity for someone to get brand new engines, controls and harnesses for well under market price. I am going to see if they can at least not install the gauges, controls and harnesses so I don't have to worry about any glass work if the components for Mercury don't match the Yamaha stuff. What would be the best place to market them? I was thinking here obviously but are there any "marketplace" type sites for engines you guys are aware of?
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OP, don't know what boat you're talking about but it doesn't seem worth the trouble to me. Too many fine brands out there that will power with whatever you want. You don't seem to specifically have anything against the Yamaha's, and I presume you've never owned them before. Rather than go through all of these complications why not just try them out for a while if your heart is set on this boat. You might find you like them more than, or equally to the Mercs, and if you don't you can always sell a very low hour motor that comes with a terrific warranty. Rigging issues aside.
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Have you done the math yet on paying to have 2 motors rigged and installed, then uninstalled, then 2 more motors installed?

And it’s not just the motors... steering and gauges may be an issue too.

Rough numbers? This little adventure may cost you $10-15k just to change motor brands..... and then there’s the money you’ll lose in resale (Yamaha has a higher resale).

Manufacturer really won’t work with you?? I figure EVERYTHING is negotiable if you write a check.

FWIW, there are some manufacturers that sell both Mercury and Yamaha (Scout is one example).
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You must have a lot of money that you don't know what to do with. 69mach390 estimated $10-15K and I think that's low. I just repowered and that was a PITA. Between selling old motors, buying new motors, harnesses, gauges, repairing helm, new props, different props, lot of aggravation and I needed to do it. No disrespect OP but I think your idea may not be the best I've ever heard.
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You never know, but that could interfere with the boats stern to stem warranties.
Old 08-29-2020, 05:23 AM
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Agree with others on this .....use the motors maybe find you like them just fine
Old 08-29-2020, 05:28 AM
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Why would you want to downgrade to Mercury's from what is arguably the most reliable motor Yamaha or any manufacturer has ever made? Asking for a friend.
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Must be one hell of a production boat to go through what you propose. Buy a new custom or semi-custom boat and spec what you want. Or, buy a clean used boat and repower.
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Again thank you for all the comments. Some very valid points for sure. Let's take the rigging / de-rigging out of the equation. I have all that handled on my side without much cost at all. As i mentioned I will ask the manufacturer to not rig the motors at all so in a sense this will be less than a re-power work wise since all areas will be clean to run gauges and controls. That being said are there any special sites I should consider listing or pre-listing these on? I expect to take delivery late Feb or early March, so I am thinking timing will be pretty good. Still plenty of time for someone to make a re-power prior to the start of season in the NE. Again all thoughts are appreciated.
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You could list them here, Craigslist, boat trader. Even talk to a local dealer who might repower a used boat as a backup.


I do think you’re going to drive us all nuts though if you don’t tell us what boat you’re buying or why you like Mercury so much!

It’s your money, you can spend it however you like, but I’m sure I’m not the only one curious. We might even be able to find you a similar boat that comes with Mercury from the start and you won’t need to go through all the hassle.
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You will be spending more money to get worse resale value....
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Are the Yamaha and Merc gauges the same size? Or would you have to have glass work or bezels?
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Thanks for the input. I will make a final decision as I get a little closer to the boat starting. You have all been very helpful and I thank you for all of your comments as they are all great points and will be considered for my final decision. For me I have some reasons for wanting the Mercury engines like parts and service being more accessible with where I am and that is the main reason. I do not want to give the boat manufacturer because I understand the agreements most manufacturers have to sign in order to get the best deals on motors and keep the boats at the price point the market will allow for. I will definitely put the motors on here as the time approaches so please keep me in mind of you know anyone who might be looking for a re-power this spring. Like I said they would be brand new and will come with all rigging so somebody will get a great opportunity!
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I wish boat dealers would get together and push for hulls that have no power. Grady White would sell more boats if they didn't have Yamaha's on them.
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I've been boating in south jersey for the past 18 years. My 21 foot hydrasport has a 2 stroke yamaha 150 on the back of it that has never broken down...you read that right, Never in 18 years! I stepped up to a proline with twin screws 3 years ago and the only engines i will own are Yamaha. I totally get you likely having the same sentiments about mercury, but I would not let Yamahas hold you back from buying the boat. I would also make sure that whoever will be servicing your boat is certified for whichever brand you end up with or their work wont be covered.

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