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Old 08-26-2020, 08:20 PM
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Hey guys, so looking for some advice in my situation please nothing harsh I feel like I messed up bad enough as is.


So Iíve been looking for a tin boat for a while now needed to be under 2000lbs due to towing restrictions. After a long time of looking used without finding anything good decided to finance new. Picked up a tracker 160 on Saturday. (For the life of me Iím still not sure why I paid more for this model over the classic, originally I saw the classic was like 1750lbs package weight and I figured after I loaded it up And made some mods, Iíd be right up to my towing capacity, the 160 is less than 1500lbs.) anyways took the boat on the water for the first time and I get why everyone on here preaches about size, I couldnít stand in the d**n thing without feeling like I could tip! Seriously the stability on this boat even with one person is awful, the front casting deck is basically for sitting and that can get sketchy. Iím not trying to come off snobby here, Itís just hard for me to imagine gettig much use out of something I use for leisure, when I feel uncomfortable and unsafe, even worse knowing thereís a 7 year payment plan with it.


Currently Owe around 10k on the boat, this all just blows, Iím gonna be working my ass off to pay for something I wonít use because Im not comfortable or safe in the d**n thing. I can probably knock it off in about 3 and a half years if I hustle and try to sell it myself or trade in for something bigger, would I be better off trying to sell without pink slip ? Wondering if anyone has any experience or advice for me, any help is appreciated.
Old 08-26-2020, 08:25 PM
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Sell it and move on. Used boat market is insane right now, people paying as much for used boats as new ones because they want to get on the water now.

But do it quick, we are getting towards the end of boating season.


Option 2 is go back to the same dealer and trade in on something bigger. Youíre definitely not the first person to do that in the first week of buying something.
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How will that work without pink slip, just sign over statement of origin and hope they take my word Iíll mail the pink slip after I receive it? And do you think bass pro will give me anything respectable for it? Lol
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It works the same way you trade in a car with a loan on it. The dealer takes care of all the paperwork, loan payoff, title, etc..

Will they give you a decent trade? Donít know until you ask.
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If you sell privately you'll get more money and one way to handle the title would be to contact the lender and ask that the paid off title be issued to the buyer. The lender probably has a form for that. The buyer can send the payoff amount directly to the lender. If the sale price is less than what's owed you would pay the buyer the difference and walk away. The easier way of course, is to go to a dealer for a trade and, with the market as hot as it is right now, you might get a pretty fair deal.

Don't feel too bad. Many of us have done the same thing. I took a 20K hit on a boat I owned for 7 months and hated. It was worth it to end up with a boat my wife and I actually enjoy and use. Live and learn and try it out on the water before you buy the next one.
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OP how much do you weigh? That has a big effect on stability on small boats.

Also make sure to water test whatever boat you buy next. I have a 17' boat that is extremely stable even with 4 people walking around fishing on it. I knew that before I bought it thanks to the water test.

Having a new (reliable) motor isn't the be all end all, the hull matters too. A buddy of mine just bought a brand new boat without water testing, just so he had the security of a new motor. It's a cheap brand imported from Poland he paid $26K for with yamaha 115. The hull sells for $5000 in Poland, lol. The scuppers are underwater and must stay plugged, the boat lists heavily to starboard thanks to the extremely weird and obnoxious console and it's ugly to boot.
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Not sure why you feel unsafe. Back in my younger days I added front and back platforms and pedestal seats to a 14 foot john boat. Fished that thing for many years.
Only got dumped once when my seat post broke while setting the hook. And I did catch the fish.

If you want a bigger boat that's your choice, but I think you just need to use it a few times and get used to how it fits you. Now if you happen to be over 300lbs or so I could see where that could be a problem.
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You can't upgrade boats without upgrading your tow vehicle so if you want to own a boat, this is the one for you.

Take it out a few more times and try to get used to the stability, it really isn't that bad. I've caught a ton of bass and crappie from one, and so have many others. These are some serious fishing machines as long as you stick to the calm water.
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Where are you trying to use the boat? What's the water like?

What is your background? Have you been on enough boats to know this one is less stable than your experience or is this relatively new?

I couldn’t stand in the d**n thing without feeling like I could tip!
This sounds to me like you might be really new to boating.

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Trade up and get a boat that you feel safe in. IMO
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That's a tough break brother. I can understand how bad that would be getting your hopes up and then taking on that debt load just to be disappointed It's really not what you were looking to do. I agree with some of the other posters here see what the dealer has to say about it possible trade up. Definitely can't hurt to ask
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It doesn't look like such a bad boat, maybe give it time and get used to it. rick
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Go ride a paddle board and then try out your boat. You'll be praising it's stability!
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I am also wondering what your experience is, what your expectations are and how you are looking to use the boat. Smaller boats are just that, smaller boats, and you need to understand and learn how to use them and what their limitations are. That said, once you get the hang of them they are good boats and most of the time do what the owners want them to do.
It sounds like you just need some more time with it to get used to it.

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It looks like a boat that does what it is supposed to do.
There are also definite advantages to not having a boat that is larger than what you need. Easier towing, easier storage, uses less gas, easier to maneuver, less work, ... If you are looking for a nimble fishing machine that looks pretty good to me.
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Any 16' v bottom boat is going to feel a little tippy when you are standing upright in it. Your height exceeds the beam of the boat. Having grown up on lots of little boats, I always boarded them while crouching and staying near the centerline. We have a small inflatable dinghy and I still do the same thing on that one.

I fished for years from a leaky, pop-riveted, 13 foot aluminum boat. We also did a lot of duckhunting out of it in the winter. Ocean water is pretty chilly up here in November, so I exercised caution when standing up.
I'm not the most graceful person, so if I can do it with a 12 gauge shotgun, you can do it with a fishing rod.

I'd say try to get used to it first. When moving around, crouch rather than stand. Stay towards the centerline.
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It's Day 4 after the purchase; odds are pretty high the Dealer hasn't even processed the paperwork just yet. Go back to them, explain your issue and see what kind of resolution they offer. Should they happen to say, "Sorry, dude, you're stuck with it" (which I just don't happen to think will happen), then share with them your next phone call will be to the lender. Oftentimes, it takes a dealer a week or so to even get your paperwork packaged and sent out to the Lender. One thing they don't usually want to happen is there be an issue when it lands. The bank hasn't cut them the check yet, I imagine, so act soon as this situation will change once the Lender has processed it all and put you on the books.
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I'd agree with those who say to try giving it a chance - I took a guy out on my Seaswirl Striper 2101 WA and he was too nervous to stand up in the cockpit of that at first - an hour later we were ploughing through waves that were coming over the bow - and he caught his first fish on first drop of the lure!

I assume that Tracker is a good seller so there must be lots people who are perfectly happy with its stability.
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Just want to say I really appreciate all the replyís, as for my experience I grew up in the Midwest land of lakes so ALOT as a youth, In all fairness though this is probably the first boat Iíve been on in the last 2 years, and my first that Iíve owned. Time to time I also planned to use the boat on a pretty big lake but stick to coves/ stay close to where I launch, honestly not sure thatís realistic with this boat. Besides that mostly smaller reservoirs. I guess my expectations were just too high for what the boat is, hindsight 20/20 I really think I overrated having a new hull & motor too, but really wasnít finding any good used options, so rock and a hard place.
Bass pro wouldnít work with me on a test drive next time around Iíll make SURE though.
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Don't set yourself up for failure from lofty expectations. You now have a whopping, what, two hours of boating experience where you are the owner and responsible for everything (different than going out when growing up). Plan a trip, excited mindset, no fishing, just go drive the darn thing and get used to it. Stay low and center. A day of no fishing, no expectations, just cruising on your new toy.

Will you look to trade in a year, or maybe even two? Yep. Most do. But at least then you'll have a much better idea of what's important to you. If you replace this one now, you still won't really know.

It's all in the mindset. Go relax for a day and get to know it!
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Oh, and wear a PFD. West Marine has an inflatable line that is really unobtrusive. I wear it 100% because I forget it's there. This way you won't be as stressed about the tippy feeling until you get used to it.

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