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Old 08-19-2020, 08:22 PM
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I replaced emm and power control panel with fuses. Fuel pump came on and motor turned over 3 times then it wouldn't do anything. I found a loose connection on the Pcp that made the trim start moving on its own. Used dielectric grease on that. The relays and fuses in the pcp all are good. The 2relays on the other side of motor feel hotter than usual. Dielectric in those fittings also. Anything else I can try
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So if you turn the key switch now you get nothing? No fuel pump running, no clicks from starter nothing?

if thatís the case trying jumping the starter solenoid to see if thatís the problem. I just had a no start/crank/nothing issue and it was a faulty starter solenoid. Had good voltage coming into solenoid but no voltage going out.
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Yes I jumped starter solinoid. Motor turns. With ign switch I get just the gauge voltage and one beep. It turned 3 seperate times and almost started each time. Then back to nothing I was thinking possibly the motor vibrated when almost started and loosened another bad connection. Not sure though
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Ok so you have good voltage to starter solenoid? What is voltage coming out of solenoid and going to starter when you turn the key?

Double check all your grounds and make sure all connections are good and clean. You did say you just had emm rebuilt right? Check connections on your key switch as well.

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I Did try another ign switch and checked the neutral safety switch yellow wire. I wanted to try by passing the actual switch to make sure but I can't find what wires to connect in manual to do that. The pink wire wire on solenoid had 9volts and the main power wire has 12.5. Again though when I turn switch now the fuel pump doesn't turn on. I get nothing now

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anyone have any idea what else it could be
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Like King Ranch said..Check all your connections pos an neg must have good battery's as every wire needs to be clean...every wire
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Since motor turns when starter solinoid is jumped everything with batt and cables must be good. Iím looking for other loose or damaged wires relays. Ect. There is no voltage coming out of solinoid when ign is turned. I get nothing. No fuel pump on or anything
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Iím going to say you have a bad solenoid. I would try a new one if all wires and connectors are in good shape. Itís a $30 part.

If if you happen to have twins swap the solenoid from the good motor to confirms.

You should have 12+ volts on battery side of solenoid and when you turn the key you should have roughly the same on the starter side of solenoid. If you turn the key and try to crank the motor and have no volts or very low voltage on starter side of solenoid then there is a 99% chance the solenoid is bad.
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I Did try another ign switch and checked the neutral safety switch yellow wire. I wanted to try by passing the actual switch to make sure but I can't find what wires to connect in manual to do that. The pink wire wire on solenoid had 9volts and the main power wire has 12.5. Again though when I turn switch now the fuel pump doesn't turn on. I get nothing now

It appears that the yellow wire with red tracer, is the starter wire coming out of the switch and then through the kill switch.
You can jump 12 volts to that and see what happens.
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King ranch. Solinoid is fine it turned a few times before other issue came up. When ign switch is turned to on fuel pump is suppose to turn on. Thatís not happening now. Iíve tried 2 other used ign switches I have for it. So thatís a long shot. But there are a lot of connections that have to be perfect for motor to turn. If one is loose Iím guessing this is what happens. Just not sure where to look now

lucky bum. What so u mean through kill switch. Just apply a 12 volt wire directly to the yellow wire with red stripe ? To bypass ign switch
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King ranch. Solinoid is fine it turned a few times before other issue came up. When ign switch is turned to on fuel pump is suppose to turn on. Thatís not happening now. Iíve tried 2 other used ign switches I have for it. So thatís a long shot. But there are a lot of connections that have to be perfect for motor to turn. If one is loose Iím guessing this is what happens. Just not sure where to look now

lucky bum. What so u mean through kill switch. Just apply a 12 volt wire directly to the yellow wire with red stripe ? To bypass ign switch

My bad, the yellow wire with red is the ignition wire that goes through the neutral safety switch. 12 volts to that should engage the starter.
The yellow wire with black tracer is the ignition kill that gets grounded if the kill switch is engaged.
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Look parts 3 and 6 in this diagram. That yellow/red wire from switch goes into the start relay and then turns yellow/blue and runs to the solenoid. That pink wire on the relay should have 12v when cranking, as it tells the emm that you are trying to start the engine.


Credit for picture goes to MIDCAP from another thread.
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I see. Iíll try connecting that to wire to 12 volts. What wire turns on fuel pump when ign is turned on but not all the way to start. Does 12 volt turn it on before or does emm tell it to turn on. Canít tell from that diagram
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I see. Iíll try connecting that to wire to 12 volts. What wire turns on fuel pump when ign is turned on but not all the way to start. Does 12 volt turn it on before or does emm tell it to turn on. Canít tell from that diagram
I beleive the EMM controls the fuel pump.
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battery good?
This is not related to your issues but Do you change the plugs every 40 hours?
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Replaced the starter solenoid and motor turns over every time now. It tries to fire for a 2 or 3 secs and dies. I've checked all plugs have fire.they are older plugs but all verified to fire Pulled all injectors and cycled fuel through them. Fuel pump runs for 10 secs or so. Running brand new fuel from a small remote can. Tried starting fluid in each plug. Tried 2 diff emm. If motor won't even run on starting fluid I assume it has to be elec or timing bad stator ? What makes the most sense to check next. I've never seen any kind of motor have perfect compression ,fire and air not run on starting fluid unless it was a timing issue. There are no backfires or related timing problems. Just a quick start and then dies. Also brand new 1200 cca battery with charger backing it up at 25 amps
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Did you go check each wire and clean the post, A bad ground can keep you dry. Did you index the plugs?Have you taken off your flywheel to check your key?
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Be sure to check the 20 amp blade fuse connector down inside its socket for corrosion buildup which can cause intermittent starts or instant shut offs while running. It is located on the black wire coming off the upper connector on the PDP and then turns to a purple/white wire which supplies B+ to the EMM.
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When I had a Ficht, I had to pump the primer bulb till is was rock hard or it would not start. After the initial day's start it was fine for the day.
I'm not sure if that's typical for them, but that's how mine was.

BTW- From what I've read the EMM is matched to the injectors, so you can't just swap either with out programming.
Make sure you use the oe emm.

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