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Old 08-18-2020, 01:35 PM
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Hello everyone, had a question. i was out on a friends boat that he just purchased 2020 and it has a side entry door, while running and turning into that side of the boat water sprayed in through the door sealed area even with gaskets there. Never have been or written in a boat with the side door is this normal? or is this a defect? Like I mentioned both gaskets are on the door and hull,

Any help i can forward to him will be great. I did not want to say anything until im sure this is not normal.

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Welcome Aboard,

Now what kind of a boat does your friend have?
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From my experience, other than looking neat- it's totally impractically. A ladder off the stern is the safest, easiest, cleanest way to get in/out of a boat. Plus no gasket that leaks.



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I just want to be the first one to recommend a generous application of 5200

Those side entry doors strike me as being problematic in most scenarios - I think Wesmac or Bayliss could build a functional one but the generic 2 pc shitbox from a mold that most of us own....I just don't see it ever working right.
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Originally Posted by MC View Post
From my experience, other than looking neat- it's totally impractically. A ladder off the stern is the safest, easiest, cleanest way to get in/out of a boat. Plus no gasket that leaks.
Yer expecting tuna to walk up the ladder? ;-)

Tuna “ladder” oops I meant door on a proper boat - advantage is obvious. On a pretty boat advantage is realized by the ladies in evening dresses and high heels..... ymmv
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I got to see the navy loading their dolphin, one at a time, into a Boston Whaler with a side door. It worked good for that purpose
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I personally would never own another boat without one. On my Intrepid, they have it absolutely perfected without a drop of water coming in at all. I also ran a 38' Scout with no problems either.

My Whaler was a different story, it would shoot water in while running in any kind of decent sea offshore. Same thing with a 38' Fountain as well.

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Originally Posted by MC View Post
From my experience, other than looking neat- it's totally impractically. A ladder off the stern is the safest, easiest, cleanest way to get in/out of a boat. Plus no gasket that leaks.
Unfortunately stern doors aren't nearly as practical with Trips.
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I was on my first one recently, was awesome, no issues. Intrepid i think
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Originally Posted by MajSchaefer View Post
I personally would never own another boat without one. On my Intrepid, they have it absolutely perfected without a drop of water coming in at all. I also ran a 38' Scout with no problems either.

My Whaler was a different story, it would shoot water in while running in any kind of decent sea offshore. Same thing with a 38' Fountain as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiwb0TzA5vc
was the fountain a 2007 LX ice blue?
It was the only fountain I ever saw with a side door
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A buddy of mine has one on a 39 sea vee. No spraying or leaking while underway. Cant say if your buddies boat is a defect or just a bad design but i would not be happy if mine did that.
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I'd like a side door not for tuna or swimming but for helping most people board.

If a 2020 side door is leaking, that is something the boat was not designed to do.
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Originally Posted by evernic View Post
was the fountain a 2007 LX ice blue?
It was the only fountain I ever saw with a side door
It was a 2019. I believe it is an option on all newer models.
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From my experience, other than looking neat- it's totally impractically. A ladder off the stern is the safest, easiest, cleanest way to get in/out of a boat. Plus no gasket that leaks.
ummm, ya ever have old folks or people less physically apt get on/off your boat from the dock?

easy access onto and off the boat through a side or transom door is awesome. I never thought so, until I had one. My buddy had his new cat built with one on each side and has a transom door. They love all three. We used his transom door for hauling 50 and 70# halibut into the boat last week. Would have used the side doors if we gaffed the fish on either side.

yes, under some conditions, water can intrude. Usually, for us, it’s when it’s pretty rough out. Fairly rare though. I could see being in a very steep turn and taking a wave on the beam forcing water in too.
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In calm conditions, the are neat and certainly do the job. But get into about in 2-3 foot seas- better have a crash helmet on board for anyone boarding that boat on the side. Again-personal experience.

But if you are buying a $300-$500k boat- get it. I would.

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Originally Posted by MajSchaefer View Post
It was a 2019. I believe it is an option on all newer models.
thanks for answering
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i have a side lower helm door that goes to a side door in the hull

absolutely amazing and lets me dock my 47' boat solo

we never use it otherwise. we board through the rear/swim platform
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I have a $300-$500k boat and didnt get one... and this coming from a diver. I heard from several credible sources that all the big brands have had leaks in them and the spraying at speed. I think its just how each particular boat is built and rigged and I wasn't willing to take the risk so I skipped it when we ordered.

Also... you absolutely have to have additional flex in that area. Perhaps minimal but with the runs we make and likelihood for bad weather I wanted all the boat I could have sealed up permanently. I couldn't imagine what would happen if that opened up at speed... thats allot of faith in some stainless hinges.
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Thanks for all the feedback. I agree with alot of points here, He bought a sea chaser which, i would say a very low end boat but he did not take advise and just wanted a bargain hybrid. So you get what you pay for. But it seems that some other brands have the same issue with water coming in. On that video i can see that the intrepid made it to where no water will come in since it closes against the hull creating a tight seal. I believe he should question it.
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I have a whaler with one. When i was looking at boats I couldnt care for them it was my my wife saying thats a nice feature etc. I was coming from a express with a transom door. Now that i have a side door i dont think ill buy a boat without one. Its so nice to not get into the boat around the engine when swimming. Another thing is my parents and inlaws are elderly and i pull the boat along the floating dock and they step right in. Its both super convenient and safer than stepping in from the front or over the gunnels. Im sure at some point just like any other seal you might get a little water down the road seeping in but really ? its super thick and wide the door. If a wave big enough hits and puts some water through 100% of the time its coming over the side at that point. its a mute issue

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