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Old 08-09-2020, 09:27 PM
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I recently purchased a 1981 Boston Whaler Montauk. Iím tired of fiddling with the old Evinrude it came with. I reconditioned the boat and it looks great. I just canít keep the motor running. I am going to put a 90 hp on it. My first preference is Mercury but they are pretty far out on the time and expensive. My next choice is a Suzuki,which are going for about a grand or more less. Thoughts?
If I wait until fall will I get a better price? Is the new Mercury worth the premium?
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I have a df150 Suzuki and wouldn't hesitate to recommend the brand. Reliable, easy to do your own maintenance on and generally less expensive than the others. However, I don't think you could really go wrong with Merc, Honda, Tohatsu or Yamaha either. You may even be able to get an Etec on the cheap too since they're no longer being produced if you are willing to buy one. There really aren't many bad choices in outboards these days.
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We were running at full speed thru San Antonio Bay down on the Texas coast near SeaDrift in my friendís CC with a 90 Yamaha 4-stroke... when he hit an unmarked crab-trap that stopped that Yamaha Instantly, and I do mean from FULL speed to STOP... DEAD STOP!

I figured we were gonna have to paddle or get towed... but after he got that steel cable untwisted from the prop, it fired right-up and ran perfectly. We fished and ran all over that bay the rest of the day and that was 6 months ago. Heís still fishing that rig.

THAT .... is why I decided to buy a Yamaha 4-stroke. Iíve never seen an outboard survive that kind of abuse with no problems.
Iím sure other guys might have stories but I do have a real respect for Yamaha.
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I would not hesitate to get the Suzuki . My buddy repowered his Parker with a 115. It's quiet, fuel efficient and was the cheapest out of all the manufacturers. They are very reliable motors. I repowered my boat with an etec and paid a little more and wish I went with the Suzuki. You probably won't find a better deal with new controls etc. Everyone who has Suzuki I don't hear many complaints. I have another buddy with a new 150 Suzuki on his 20ft whaler no complaints. Yamaha would be my next choice. If time isn't a factor constantly check who has the best warranty. They sometimes offer different warranties throughout the year at different times. When I bought my etec I got a 5 year warranty but before that they were offering 10 year at one point
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Originally Posted by bryan28 View Post
I have a df150 Suzuki and wouldn't hesitate to recommend the brand. Reliable, easy to do your own maintenance on and generally less expensive than the others. However, I don't think you could really go wrong with Merc, Honda, Tohatsu or Yamaha either. You may even be able to get an Etec on the cheap too since they're no longer being produced if you are willing to buy one. There really aren't many bad choices in outboards these days.
I do agree with this advice but with a caveat based on availability. I think a Honda and Tohatsu make a great engine. They may even be the most reliable. They have no market share where I live though. Iím not sure where a Tohatsu dealer is within 100 or more miles. Honda is not much better off. I put them off the list for that reason alone. I would consider an E-Tec but the price would have to blow me away. Resale with them will be bad and there is no telling on parts availability and cost in 10 years. Yamaha is great but everybody has one. I have a 2010 Mercury on my Key West and it has never seen a shop outside of regular service. Suzuki has always intrigued me so that is how I arrived at those two. I have been quoted an out the door price on the Suzuki for $10,200. This includes controls and installation.
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I would not hesitate to look into tohatsu . I have owned a 25hp and 9.8 those little motors never stopped always started first pull.
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Originally Posted by Captainhaug View Post
I would not hesitate to look into tohatsu . I have owned a 25hp and 9.8 those little motors never stopped always started first pull.
I would not hesitate either. I live in St. Marys, GA, which is essentially Jacksonville, Fl. There are no Tohatsu dealers around. I see them on lots of guide boats further South so I know they are solid motors. I do not want to be stuck with no service providers though. There are always mechanics who "can work on them" but I prefer there be more of a solid connection locally.
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If you have a solid dealer network nearby and the price is right then get a Suzuki. I doubt you'll have any regrets. Unless you don't perform your own maintenance (which is simple on a Suzuki) I doubt it'll ever see a shop.
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End of the day, you gotta buy what fits your budget. Local dealer to me just cut their entire Evinrude inventory by 25%, which is pretty substantial. Something to think about. I'm now a Yamaha fan, so if it were me, I'd pay the extra (and will) to get the Yamaha. Doesn't mean it's the best option, just best for me.
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That Whaler performs much better with a light motor on the transom. I would look at the weight of each manufacturer and choose the lightest. If it were me I wouldnít rule out a lower hp if it saved transom weight. A 17 Montauk is awful when overpowered with too much transom weight. I havenít looked at weights of 90hp motors lately, but the lighter the better.
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if your going 90, just go ahead and get you a 140 suzuki. same weight as the 90-115-140. Its a new place near tractor supply I think that is sell all motors, Suzuki for sure.
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i bought a new Suzuki 90 in 2014 for my Privateer 18. Ran it hard for 6 years with zero issues. Very reliable, economical, and seems powerful. Did nothing to it but oil changes and grease. Flushed with fresh water after every use. Just traded it in on another new Suzuki 90 with a fresh new six year warranty. I highly recommend this engine. PS it was quite a bit less expensive than the other brands. My amortized cost to own the 2014 after trading it in was about $70 a month so I didn't feel foolish trading in a perfectly good motor. I hope the new 90 works out as well as my first one.
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same, as Sea hare. I had the DF140A for 5 years. did nothing but the normal hour stuff. Never replaced the water pump. sold it to a friend when I moved. they're still loving it. should be at or over 500 hrs now.
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Originally Posted by Brackett33 View Post
if your going 90, just go ahead and get you a 140 suzuki. same weight as the 90-115-140. Its a new place near tractor supply I think that is sell all motors, Suzuki for sure.
I know the place. I thought they only did government contracts though?
Regardless, a 90 and a 140 have a substantial weight difference. The 90 is 341 lbs and the 140 is 405 lbs.
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Did they fix the salt water problems on the Suzuki? A few years back (at least 5) everyone I knew that had a Suzuki had extra hassles to keep the jacket clean of salt and keep them cool. I heard that they changed design, but not sure.
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Been a few threads around these parts on some of the bigger ones having issue with removing the lower unit thanks to salt, that's for sure.
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[QUOTE=71Outrage;13938368]That Whaler performs much better with a light motor on the transom. I would look at the weight of each manufacturer and choose the lightest. If it were me I wouldnít rule out a lower hp if it saved transom weight. A 17 Montauk is awful when overpowered with too much transom weight. I havenít looked at weights of 90hp motors lately, but the lighter the better
The Suzuki is one of the lightest @ 341lbs. Iím also going to move the battery to the center console to free up a little more weight. The 70 and the 90 weigh the same for Suzuki.
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May be sacrilegious these days, but consider a 2-stroke 115 - better power to weight and the newer Yamahas are fantastic motors.
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Originally Posted by k@Freak View Post
May be sacrilegious these days, but consider a 2-stroke 115 - better power to weight and the newer Yamahas are fantastic motors.
I have no problem with a 2 stroke. I have one on my Key West. It is a 2010 Mercury. It is never given me a single issue. It went to the shop for the 25 hour and 100 hour service. I love that motor.
The ETEC 90 is the best motor for the boat based on the weight. It is perfect with the 90hp coming in at 320 lbs. Unfortunately, Evinrude is no longer making outboards. If the price were right I would consider one but it would have to be REALLY right as I would fear the resale value and the parts availability in 10 years. Also, depending on where you live it may be hard to find a dealer that knows how to service them once their network dissipates
I actually contacted a dealer about repowering a new one. He was more than the Mercury, Suzuki and Yamaha. It surprised me quite a bit. In fact it was $1750 more. Even if they were still in business I would not pay that much more for an Evinrude.

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