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Forget "Right of Way"! They're All Idiots!!

Old 08-04-2020, 03:37 AM
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:12 AM
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My observations:

I agree with your title. I still recognize ROW, but I just assume nobody else will.

First time I have seen jet skiers complimented, especially after a boat crash. I bet both drivers have cussed them before.

Some were scared to help because the propeller was still turning. Another good reason to use the lanyard. We usually only think of falling overboard as a reason to wear it.
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This was near Cow Meadow Park, Freeport Creek! 6:45 PM! Tragic. No reason for it.
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What a shame. I always assume, like Beehaw, that others will not observe right of way and I try to take action a lot earlier.
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usually alcohol related...
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this happened near my house on saturday...new boaters are speeding like crazy thru 5 mph no wake zones....I saw one guy last week on plane doing about 40 mph in a 5 mph zone all the way through without slowing down at all throughout the entire 5 mph marked channel in a pretty big boat...it's nuts out there right now
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The most dangerous time for this is late afternoon when the sandbar partiers are coming back in with alcohol oozing from their pores. Look all around you because they can come from any direction.
In Miami the jet skies are the worse, IMO.
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It's like the wild west out there, this year! This past weekend there was a boat towing a tube, through about 100 anchored boats! Ah, what can go wrong??
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Safe Speed!

Operating a vessel at speed always entails risks. I work as a ship captain. When running a ship we are always concerned with safe speed and evaluating risk, For instance operating in reduced visibility safe speed is often defined as being able to stop your vessel in half the distance that you can see. When maneuvering into a berth safe peed could be defined as being able to stop your vessel with only a slow bell engine command in the opposite direction of your vessels movement. Other things that might influence safe speed might be confidence of your vessels position in relation to navigational hazards and other vessels. When any of these things are in doubt the safe and prudent thing to do is to slow down to allow yourself the ability to re-asses, gain additional situational awareness etc...

And yes I also see lots of people who completely ignore no wake zones, blast past kayakers and waders, and have basically have no regard for others on the water. It's all about them. Unfortunately there seem to be far too many of 'them' on the water which is unfortunate for majority of safety conscious boaters out there.
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I am amazed that the boat’s motor was still running after having so much damage to the hull.
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There's no way for the CG to educate everyone, there are far too many new boaters this season who clearly don't have a clue. I had someone come right up my stern yesterday doing 20+ in a no-wake zone. I didn't say anything because he had his wife and kids with him, but after thinking about it further I should have-- If we want it to improve quickly then it's up to all of us to call people out on the water when we see these situations. Lay on the horn until they slow down, notify the CG. That's my plan for the next time I see some idiocy, which will probably be the next time I'm on the water given the current rate. Next week it could be you or me they hit.
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The majority do not respect right of way either on the water or on the roads.

It is the law of who has the balls and the power to get there first.
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I notice people essentially set their non-auto autopilot i.e. they find the marker they want to go to and the hell w/ anyone in their way, anchored, underway, whatever. They want to go to a certain marker and they are going there. Then they wave at you passing 30' off your bow when you are anchored. Or after you've dramatically altered course.

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Originally Posted by renegade72 View Post
this happened near my house on saturday...new boaters are speeding like crazy thru 5 mph no wake zones....I saw one guy last week on plane doing about 40 mph in a 5 mph zone all the way through without slowing down at all throughout the entire 5 mph marked channel in a pretty big boat...it's nuts out there right now
If it is by your house, then you know that area where the accident happened by Cow Meadow Park is not a 5 mph zone.
The USCG attributed statement that one of the boats was speeding is both false and misleading - I bet the USCG said speed was a factor.
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On any given day, there will be multiple upon multiple moments of "What is he doing? I have right of way".

It's the idiots on both sides who refuse to recognize that safety is paramount and your ego or understanding of navigational rules should take a back seat. None of my passengers have ever said "What are you doing? You have right of way!" whenever I've veered way off course to avoid any possible collision.
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I see many boaters who have a lot of power hanging off the stern who seem to feel that their default operating condition is always WOT even in high traffic areas. Speed coupled with lack of situational awareness is a deadly combination.
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Originally Posted by rwp2101 View Post
There's no way for the CG to educate everyone, there are far too many new boaters this season who clearly don't have a clue. I had someone come right up my stern yesterday doing 20+ in a no-wake zone. I didn't say anything because he had his wife and kids with him, but after thinking about it further I should have-- If we want it to improve quickly then it's up to all of us to call people out on the water when we see these situations. Lay on the horn until they slow down, notify the CG. That's my plan for the next time I see some idiocy, which will probably be the next time I'm on the water given the current rate. Next week it could be you or me they hit.
The problem with calling anyone out on anything these days is nobody will admit, even to themselves, that they were wrong. Most just double down and if you correct them for screwing up, instead of feeling stupid like they should, they will just double down and swerve at you , tell you to go fornicate with yourself, and spend the next few days telling themselves and every other loser in their life how right they were about the whole thing.

Also, I don't boat in the area of this accident, Im east of that but the amount of boats feels like it's doubled on the south shore of Long Island. spend a few hours near the mouth of the Connetquot river on a weekend and it's madness. people passing you in no wake zones only to cut in front of you to get to the gas dock, people anchoring out far beyond the 4mph markers... and the kayaks! jesus christ they are almost as arrogant and stupid as the bike riders on regular roads.
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Originally Posted by Shewillbemine View Post

t. None of my passengers have ever said "What are you doing? You have right of way!" whenever I've veered way off course to avoid any possible collision.

Well said!!
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Originally Posted by rwp2101 View Post
There's no way for the CG to educate everyone, there are far too many new boaters this season who clearly don't have a clue. I had someone come right up my stern yesterday doing 20+ in a no-wake zone. I didn't say anything because he had his wife and kids with him, but after thinking about it further I should have-- If we want it to improve quickly then it's up to all of us to call people out on the water when we see these situations. Lay on the horn until they slow down, notify the CG. That's my plan for the next time I see some idiocy, which will probably be the next time I'm on the water given the current rate. Next week it could be you or me they hit.
Videotape and send to the local marine gendarmes. Works like a charm.They know all the boats ans half the owners..
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There is NO such thing as right of way on the water. Take a class, read the colregs, do some research, something, anything! They aren't cars.

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