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Old 07-25-2020, 10:32 PM
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I'm buying a new to me boat, a 32 CV. Boat lives on a trailer in a tight yard requiring tight turns so tandem axle is a must. I also trailer to get fuel and several long trips each year. I had an Ameritrail under my last boat and I like the all welded stuff, but they are at least 8 weeks out. My buddy has a Sport trail which I absolutely love, but they don't make it for my boat.
Heard a lot about owens and sons and then there are several Manufacturers near me in South Florida.
My question is, is welded better and if not, what should I look for in terms of parts, stainless steel, aluminum, galvanized????
I'm looking to have this boat for a long time and towing is extremely important to me.
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Any name brand aluminum trailer with SS hardware is fine. Spring for ALL stainless steel brakes whatever you buy. Owens & Sons, Rolls Axle, Continental, etc... are all good trailers, Rolls is the best IMO, and the only manufacturer using they’re own axles as far as I know. I’m sure you realize how you maintain them is the most important factor. You can get any parts you need for Continentals anywhere in SFL, something to consider. I buy boats used and currently own an Ameratrail and it’s a beautiful trailer, would I ever buy one new, hell no. It’s my second Ameratrail and I don’t think they’re worth the premium compared to say a Continental. Within the last year I’ve replaced the winch, half of the lights because they were full of water, and the brakes are currently disconnected because they’re rusted open and the master cylinder leaks like crazy. It’s a 2018. The “all welded trailer” as Ameratrail used to market is a misnomer to say the least. The only parts welded are the bunk supports to the crossmembers, the tongue, crossmembers, axles are still bolted to the frame just like any other trailer.

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Originally Posted by jason8251 View Post
Any name brand aluminum trailer with SS hardware is fine. Spring for ALL stainless steel brakes whatever you buy. Owens & Sons, Rolls Axle, Continental, etc... are all good trailers, Rolls is the best IMO, and the only manufacturer using they’re own axles as far as I know. I’m sure you realize how you maintain them is the most important factor. You can get any parts you need for Continentals anywhere in SFL, something to consider. I buy boats used and currently own an Ameratrail and it’s a beautiful trailer, would I ever buy one new, hell no. It’s my second Ameratrail and I don’t think they’re worth the premium compared to say a Continental. Within the last year I’ve replaced the winch, half of the lights because they were full of water, and the brakes are currently disconnected because they’re rusted open and the master cylinder leaks like crazy. It’s a 2018. The “all welded trailer” as Ameratrail used to market is a misnomer to say the least. The only parts welded are the bunk supports to the crossmembers, the tongue, crossmembers, axles are still bolted to the frame just like any other trailer.

clearly these are not bolt on cross members. I dont work for ameratrail, but just wanted to point out that there are high-end trailers that are basically all welded.
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the posted image is from the Ameratrail site
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My mistake... crossmembers for my Maverick and Pathfinder are bolted on. Not familiar with their large trailers.

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Old 07-26-2020, 05:34 AM
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ameratrail, sporttrail, myco, evolution, and many others do all welded V bottom trailers...not just cats....problem is the price....most all welded trailers are in the $15k-$20k range. They are not nearly as common at the local boat ramps, as opposed to the boat shows for the rich. The upside is that they are literally custom fit to an exact boat and they fit like a glove. The downside is that they can only be re-sold to someone with that exact hull...so your typical used trailer sale is much much harder.
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This is also from their site, I guess there’s two levels of Ameratrail. I always got the “Classic” I guess. I had to go to the garage to make sure I wasn’t loosing it. Must be the Corona. Notice the bolted on crossmembers. Learn something new everyday.


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which corona u talkin about?...
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Those pics are two different options... C channel v. I beam. I just bought an AmeraTrail and opted for the I Beam because I needed the absolute lowest trailer I could get and C channel would have put the supports a little higher.

I’ll say the quality is 10x more than the Float-On I moved from. Do I wish the supports were welded... yeah maybe... but what’s important is welded and what’s cool about the bolted supports is the trailer can be re-fit for any 36’ boat if I want to sell. It’s kind of the best of
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Ameratrail website is pretty clear about the construction of their “preferred fit” ...which is an all welded trailer. The “bolted” crossmembers depicted above appear to be secondaries... the primary structure and the bunks look to be welded. They make BOTH types.... those with adjustable bunks OR all welded, customer-choice.
(While looking for trailers I noticed spelling is critical in computer-work as usual.... amer A trail is not the same company as amer I trail.... but they both make trailers.
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Honestly I think it comes down to whether you want a custom trailer for your boat, or something more versatile that you can buy and sell independent of your boat (well that and budget of course). There's no doubt an all welded trailer is stronger, but a bolt-together trailer is perfectly strong enough. Sure you have more failure points with a bolted trailer, but with the right hardware throughout it's fine.

I'm not sure where you are, but here in Florida there's a relatively independent trailer market since when selling a used boat you never know whether one or the other owner will trailer, keep in the water or keep in a dry stack. So purely from resale standpoint, if you might ever sell the boat and trailer separately, an adjustable bolt-together trailer is a good bet.

Edit: just read your OP again and see that you are in SFL.
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Stainless steel Kodiak discs and calipers are worth upgrading too Alum trail does get your boat to sit very low in the trailer which is great cutting down your wind resistance on the highway
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which corona u talkin about?...
The Mexican one, never fails, if I get through a twelve pack, the very next day I come down with a horrible head ache, shortness of breath, severe stomach cramps, basically everything on the CDC list of symptoms. The wearing of a mask seems to have no affect on the Mexican version either. I’m immune to the Chinese one apparently as I have yet to contract it despite eating General Tso’s chicken almost every Friday night.
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Get the Ameratrail.

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