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Old 07-10-2020, 09:47 AM
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Default What is it about these classic hulls that make them so desirable?

There seems to be a handful of what I'd call mid-size boats in the 18-24 foot range that people are always scrambling to get their hands on to restore themselves or purchase already restored hulls. What performance attributes do these have which make them so desirable?
- Aquasport 222
- Proline 24 Flatback
- any Potter-built Seacraft from 18-23'
- pre-1992 Makos from the 17' Backcountry to the larger 24-25' center consoles

I'm sure there are others but these all seem to be the most discussed for people to run as bigger bay boats and for moderate runs offshore (say out to 30-40 miles).

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They are all clean, attractive, functional, and well built by the standards of the day. Many newer price point boats today are full of features, cushions, etc that sell boats at boat shows but 10 years later don’t work, look like crap etc.

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Don't forget all the Boston Whalers, the classic models...going back to the 60's and 70's when they had the light blue interior.
Or..back a bit..I used to love buying old 70's speedboats the like metal flake Checkmates and Baja outboard models, fixin 'em up and selling, getting another.
I later got into doing that with Harleys.
Many people do with cars now. Look at the increase in popularity of resto mod pickups!

I think a lot of us, as we get older, enjoy getting things from our past, fond memories, etc. Helps bring us back to good times. A bit of nostalgia.
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They were good boats, still are good boats and they aren't being made anymore.
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They are all clean, attractive, functional, and well built by the standards of the day. Many newer price point boats today are full of features, cushions, etc that sell boats at boat shows but 10 years later don’t work, look like crap etc.

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Nostalgia, good functional rides, and a perception they are built better than some modern boats. The last point is sort of true, there was a lot of glass in these but that frankly is offset by the need to replace all the wood and some shoddy / quick work on stringers, etc. I redid a 76 18’ Seacraft, beautiful boat but the stringers were poorly tabbed and needed to be redone, all wood needed to be replaced. Many do a better job than I did and can create a beautiful marvel - i.e. the current 17’ Mako on “Dream Boats”.

There is also a thought that his is cheaper, and today it can and frequently is cheaper to redo an old boat than buy a newer or new boat, given the crazy prices. Get a banged up boat for cheap, with the plan going in of gutting it and bringing it back as a full restoration, and you can have a great boat worth more than you put into - IF you do much of the work yourself. Added a gratuitous pic to my old 18’ - was named Standing Room Only by friends as had no seats for a while until I added the leaning post.



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Let's see, in my case this month is the 42nd Birthday for my Seacraft and my brother's is a smooth 48 years old. Let's see how today's "pretty boats" look in 42 years.

The real reason they are so desired, this is from personal experience, is you can take a 23' Potter SeaCraft and have it completely rebuilt from the hull up with composite materials, re-powered with a new engine, t-top, do the easy stuff yourself like wiring and get by for like $50,000. Been to a boat show lately and checked the prices on mew boats??

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Originally Posted by Standing Room Only View Post
Nostalgia, good functional rides, and a perception they are built better than some modern boats. The last point is sort of true, there was a lot of glass in these but that frankly is offset by the need to replace all the wood and some shoddy / quick work on stringers, etc. I redid a 76 18’ Seacraft, beautiful boat but the stringers were poorly tabbed and needed to be redone, all wood needed to be replaced. Many do a better job than I did and can create a beautiful marvel - i.e. the current 17’ Mako on “Dream Boats”.

There is also a thought that his is cheaper, and today it can and frequently is cheaper to redo an old boat than buy a newer or new boat, given the crazy prices. Get a banged up boat for cheap, with the plan going in of gutting it and bringing it back as a full restoration, and you can have a great boat worth more than you put into - IF you do much of the work yourself. Added a gratuitous pic to my old 18’ - was named Standing Room Only by friends as had no seats for a while until I added the leaning post.

It is only cheaper if you value your labor at below the minimum wage level.


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Originally Posted by Standing Room Only View Post
Nostalgia, good functional rides, and a perception they are built better than some modern boats. The last point is sort of true, there was a lot of glass in these but that frankly is offset by the need to replace all the wood and some shoddy / quick work on stringers, etc. I redid a 76 18’ Seacraft, beautiful boat but the stringers were poorly tabbed and needed to be redone, all wood needed to be replaced. Many do a better job than I did and can create a beautiful marvel - i.e. the current 17’ Mako on “Dream Boats”.

There is also a thought that his is cheaper, and today it can and frequently is cheaper to redo an old boat than buy a newer or new boat, given the crazy prices. Get a banged up boat for cheap, with the plan going in of gutting it and bringing it back as a full restoration, and you can have a great boat worth more than you put into - IF you do much of the work yourself. Added a gratuitous pic to my old 18’ - was named Standing Room Only by friends as had no seats for a while until I added the leaning post.

Do you keep your anchor collection in the stern?
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Do you keep your anchor collection in the stern?
Yea... can't you see that YAMAHA thing hanging out the back!!


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The weight! Is what makes these oldies great hulls.
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We have an old Proline 2950 that we love.
Even with recent repower, we have less than 90K in the boat.
She's solid, heavy, and comfy.
I never could afford a comparable "modern" boat with sat tv, AC, genny, fridge, full head, galley, etc.
We've done a lot of work on her and continue to fix and improve where we want.
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Don’t forget the formula 233’s, 10 or so years ago they were cheap and a lot of them ready to restore. No more while they can still be had the prices have increased, we get a couple offers on our ongoing 233 project monthly.
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If you just take a ride in a Seacraft, if you have never ridden in one, you would understand... same for the 233 formula hulls..
no comparison to the way a sportsman, seahunt, scout, tidewater, etc. rides.. hard to explain, but if you ride on one , you’ll know....
they were, and to still to this day, the Ferrari of the seas.
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When we were young it is what our dads had and we fell in love with them. Now we are older and have $$ of our own.
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I have always loved the older hulls. I just got rid of a older C-Hawk last year that was a great boat for a 20'er. Picked up this 89 Mako 231. Needed a bit of cosmetic work and electrical help but rides like a tank. They were built to last back then. if you can find an older hull that had been take care of and does not need a full restore they are great!


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I am leaving brands out of this. I have a 1990 boat. i have a friend of a friend who bought a different brand boat its a 2018, spend 115k on it. Took them out fishing, guy couldnt get over how much better my boat rode. I get the comment over and over, man this handles the slop. Newer boats doesnt mean a better boat.
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Those old boats had more eye appeal in my estimation.
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They have engineered a lot of weight out of the hulls with the use of foam composites and other core materials. With resin infusion you have a laminate that isn’t resin rich further cutting down on weight. I would be surprised if woven roving is used anywhere in a modern day hull. Nothing at all with a lighter hull but, it effects how the ride feels.
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Other than the Potter built and a few Mako models I don’t find any of those very desirable
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Also leaving brands out of this. I just sold my 1970 100% original 18fter with the original IO mercruiser, original riser. Same seats and vinyl. Same carpet. Same single step teak platform. Same gel coat. Same bow rail, original instruments/dials. There wasn't a spec of oxidation anywhere on that boat. I regret selling it but got talked into it because Im moving from fresh to salt. Shoulda kept it. I bet the boats running around now won't be here in 50 years.
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