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Old 12-26-2006, 03:03 PM
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Default Suzuki 115 4 stroke vs Yamaha 115 4 stroke ?

Which would you or did you choose and why?
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:12 PM
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I chose the Zukes because my boat was pre-rigged with them and because I heard they were at least as good as the Yams and less expenisve.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:18 PM
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My zuke came on the boat. I'm sure either is just as good. My dealer also offers 2 hour turnaround for service. But I would have no problem doing the service myself if need be. I do think it wise to have an extra pair of eyes give a look under the hood every 100 hours or so considering I spend most of my fishing 20 to 30 miles fron my port. I will say that this 115 zuke runs smoother and starts better that my 86 yamaha 70 hp which at the time was the best motor I had ever oned. they just keep getting better.

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Old 12-26-2006, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Suzuki 115 4 stroke vs Yamaha 115 4 stroke ?

Hi,
I have Yamaha F115 (2003) and it has served me well so far. I can recommend it.
I have read tests where they have compared Suzuki DF115 and Yamaha F115 and
it is basically no difference in performance, fuel consumption etc.
Service center near you, best warranty and price could be factors
that make Suzuki or Yamaha more favourable.

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Old 12-26-2006, 05:57 PM
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the yamaha. it wieghs less than the zuk. i have had mine on the boat for 3 years and havnt had a problem with it.

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Old 12-26-2006, 06:19 PM
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Unless you're really weight-critical-pick a color. No, really-they're both great powerplants so pick the color you want, make sure you have a dealer in your area and go enjoy it. I have heard from some that the zuke's better at turning a more aggressive wheel, if required. YMMV
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:21 PM
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I have a Suzuki 115 4 stroke on my 22' ctr console which just finished its fifth season with out any trouble. It has proven to be a very reliable engine with good factory trained service available in my boating areas (MA & RI). The only problum I've had was the gasket for the hydrolic lift went which required the boat to be pulled. Suzuki's extended warrantee covered the parts and labor on the repair but not the travel-lift service. This motor is so quite it's amazing. The dealer told me the most common service he has to perform is related to people trying to start the engine after it's already running and stripping the starter gears.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:33 PM
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Both are great engines. I've sold and ran both of them on numerous applications. The Suzuki seems to be stronger and I have run both engines on the same brand and size boat. It's not conclusive though, that's why I say it seems to be stronger. It might be easier to point out physical differences in the engines though. It seems that I remember that they are mirror images of each other, somewhat. What I mean is that the intake and exhaust sides of the engines are reversed between the brands. I seriously doubt if there is a better way to do this, so no clear advantage to either builder. The Suzuki has an internal chain drive for the overhead cam, the Yamaha has an external belt drive. I prefer the chain design, some folks will like the external belt because you can get to it easier to change it. Not a big difference either way. Considering the warranties, both have a standard three year warranty and the parts covered is declining in both. Boat show promotional warranties come into play this time of year and both engines add free warranty for the consumer. That's fine, but the truth is that neither engine will likely need the warranty that you're given. Normal wear items and deterioration such as corrosion are not covered anyway, in either engine. The best advice, which has already been given, is to pick the engine that is the best deal on the boat of your choice, and remember, the best deal is not always the best price, but also the best servicing dealer.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:11 AM
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We really love our Suzuki. I've not put enough hours on it to comment on long-term reliability, however it's a real powerhouse even if it's heavier than the competition. In some hulls this weight might be a serious concern. With my 83" squared-off stern and 21' hull I really don't notice much difference between it and the 60 that used to push us around.

It is very quiet and fuel efficient in the 3700 rpm range where I normally cruise.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:38 AM
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Have had 150 Yamaha four stroke and now 250 yamaha four stroke, both have served me well, I have heard nothing but good things from the zukes especially their performance, one thing sticks out is just how good is their warranty? I have heard first hand accounts of the warranty not being what you think! I would say ask and read about the warranty and after that all those questions have been answered make your decision! But keep reading this forum!
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:52 PM
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For the DIY people, I read that the engine cowl has to be removed from the Suzuki in order to remove the oil filter. Is this true and is the same true of the Yamaha. Right now the offer is the exact same price on the Zuke with 6 yr warranty vs 3 yr on the Yamaha. Weight is 75lbs lighter on the Zuke 115 vs Yamaha 115. The Zukes also have 300 cc's more than the Yammy's and a 40 amp alt vs a 25 on the Yammy. Does this stuff really matter in the end?
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:05 PM
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i would go witht he suzuki b/c of the warranty. I'll doubt you will need it though. Might even be able to find a left over with the johnson name on it at a good price. One thing to remeber with suzuki is it has to be rigged by an authorized service center for the warranty to be valid. The good news is you can't go wrong with either choice
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:49 PM
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As for the oil filter, yes, the stbd side cover has to be removed. No problem at all. I've had a 115 zuke for three years with no problems at all. It's on a Prosports 1760. I've run it with a 19, 21 & 23p. The 21 is best all around; the 19 has good acceleation but tops out at 6k too quick. The 23 hits a wild top speed which I would never use. All in all, it's been a great motor. My only drawback is the few hours it takes to winterize; vs. the few minutes it took with the Merc carb 2stk I previously had.
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Old 12-27-2006, 04:53 PM
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i like both both are greayt motors you can probably buy the zuke cheaper.find someone that can work on it before you buy.that was the one thing i did not like about the 2 zukes i owned no one new how to fixem
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:39 PM
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Default RE: Suzuki 115 4 stroke vs Yamaha 115 4 stroke ?

both are good engines i think the biggest difference is who can service them the best where you live
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:41 PM
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Default RE: Suzuki 115 4 stroke vs Yamaha 115 4 stroke ?

The Zook should be a bit stronger and a bit better on fuel. Not a huge difference, but a difference. Significant gear reductions allow Zooks to use bigger props which are inherently more efficient. Bigger props have less slippage underway and they maneuver around the dock a bit better too. This is a clear advantage that cannot be explained away.

Also, Yamaha has pretty consistently delivered F series below rated HP. The 115 delivers 108 at the prop which is allowable given the 10% legal fudge factor. Zooks deliver the rated HP or a little better. Not a huge difference, but its there.

I don't think it is a coincidence that Yamaha's BoatTests are not functioning from their website. Suzuki consistently edges them out and it was becoming pretty clear on the boat tests. There were a number of tests on identical boats that caught Yamaha offguard. All in all I'd give the nod to Suzuki, but I love both. Its a win-win comparison. Can't make a wrong choice there.

But there is another element of this comparison. I'd get the Suzuki 140, which is the same block and slightly less weight. Now your weight to HP ratio gets really interesting and the efficiency improves.

The newest mercury 4 stroke is promising too but has not had enough time to prove itself. Too new to rate.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Suzuki 115 4 stroke vs Yamaha 115 4 stroke ?

I have a Yamaha 115 4/S and I LOVE IT!

I have 2 neighbors both with Zukes they have had nothing but problems with them. Maybe the 2 of them were unlucky and got lemons, I don't know. I've read a ton of positive comments on the Zukes on here and other sites.

Service in our area is slim for the Zukes, good for the Yamahas.

You'd most likely be happy with either.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:15 AM
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Rappstr is correct, the 140 is the same engine/block as the 115 but actually weighs in at 6 lbs less than the 115 (larger bore holes in the engine). I have this engine and couldn't be happier......quiet, excellent fuel economy, and flawless operation over the last 300+ hours.

As almost everyone has said, you can't really go wrong with either brand.

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Old 12-28-2006, 08:11 AM
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I think they are both great so I bought E tecs.. If ya ever need a part youll wish you did too.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:42 PM
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Who's to say you won't have to purchase a part 1outboard? Or along with the three years of no maintenance they also never require any parts ever?
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