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Old 07-06-2020, 12:25 PM
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Just putting this out to you all.

What are your thoughts on the newer ceramic protective coatings being utilized today? How long does it last?

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A company did my truck 5 week's ago and it is amazing. I asked the owner if he could do my boat and he said if it is less than 2 yrs old he can. Anything older the ceramic doesn't truly bond to the gel coat and you will have to repeat within 6 months. He has done over 900 vehicles and 100 boats. All of the problems arise from boats older than 2 yrs.
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Not sure the above is true (only 2 yrs or less). Good prep is good prep / same surface. Did ours - 2004, 3 months old and fantastic. Everything wipes off, did our interior too. Highly reflective - pic is from 75’ or so from a lousy cell phone. That side in particular faces the sun on my lift and was chalked out. Good surface prep + good application gets a good result. You want to use soft brushes and occasional maintenance (not sure frequency) every year or so. It is not “no maintenance” but done right is a lot simpler once put right at the start.
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I'll put it this way, I used some turtle wax ceramic coating, it was easy to put on and got great reviews online. I put 3 coats on my hull with a 24 hour curve time between coats. All I know is that my boat sat in the water for a week and had a terrible scrum line around it. I pulled it out of the water and when I sprayed it with my hose the scum basically fell off without a mark on my gelcoat. Sure it might not last 2 years, but I'd rather spray a coat on ever 3 or 4 months to avoid using hull cleaner to get of stained gelcoat. Best $13 I've spent
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I'll put it this way, I used some turtle wax ceramic coating, it was easy to put on and got great reviews online. I put 3 coats on my hull with a 24 hour curve time between coats. All I know is that my boat sat in the water for a week and had a terrible scrum line around it. I pulled it out of the water and when I sprayed it with my hose the scum basically fell off without a mark on my gelcoat. Sure it might not last 2 years, but I'd rather spray a coat on ever 3 or 4 months to avoid using hull cleaner to get of stained gelcoat. Best $13 I've spent
I figured this was going to happen, the pros come to market with this revolutionary product/method, charging thousands of $, and the big guys (Turtle Wax) comes along and makes a product for DIY that makes the pros unnecessary (unless you hate doing the work). It seems like a great product, but the $ being charged was ridiculous for most boats more than a couple years old due to the prep to get it to new-like gelcoat. Great to hear you had such good luck with the Tirtle Wax!
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Subscribing to hear more on the topic. Awaiting delivery of new boat and am considering the ceramic coat before it splashes. If there is a good DIY product Iím all in. Interested to hear if others have self applied or if itís worth the $$ for pros to apply, especially considering the boat will be brand new and prep may be minimal.
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You still have to do the prep work. It also works great on the metalwork as well. With that being said, after the prep work it goes on really easy
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How much prep work are we talking about on a brand new ride? Thatís definitely a big factor between DIY and a detailer.
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Well I've used pro polish and pretty much all the 3m products and collinite, and for ease of application and durability, the ceramic has held up pretty good. It is only 2 months in.
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The work is in the prep, just like any detail job. The application of the pro products takes a bit more, and the price has come down from a few years ago but no not cheap...but again not a heck of lot more than a good detail job. Talk to the pros, not some folks on the forums.
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I think of it like a paint job.....99% is in the prep work. If you do a shitty job, the ceramic coating is just gonna seal it in. Im a fan of Nu Finish, its cheap, you can find it anywhere and it lasts longer than wax.
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If anybody wants to talk to the "pro" please PM and I'll give them the phone number. The owner of the business turned down my request for the work. Seems strange to turn down a lot of $$$, but when the owner says it isn't worth it you wonder.
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My son did this for a while when he was in school. The cost is in the prep and the coating they use. There are many many hours of hands on prep time that goes into coating anything.
And the coating will last for as long as you are willing to pay. The guy he worked for had a 3,6,9, or year package. Which basically came down to what coating he used and how many layers. And it doesn't matter how old your boat is, they sand on it so much to put the ceramic on there is no way it won't stick to a boat more than 2 years old. I know a guy that had his 4x4 done, all industrial coating on the undercarriage and heavy duty on the paint work so during hunting season all he has to do is wash it off with a hose. Once you get your boat coated you go from hours of clean up to 30-40 minutes with a hose. Worth every penny if you can afford it and the guy does it right.
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A client with a 2018 model boat we're selling had it done at the factory brand new, the boat is roughly 26 months old and the hull still shines and repels water with no buff or wax since then.
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Originally Posted by Catching Chrome View Post
I'll put it this way, I used some turtle wax ceramic coating, it was easy to put on and got great reviews online. I put 3 coats on my hull with a 24 hour curve time between coats. All I know is that my boat sat in the water for a week and had a terrible scrum line around it. I pulled it out of the water and when I sprayed it with my hose the scum basically fell off without a mark on my gelcoat. Sure it might not last 2 years, but I'd rather spray a coat on ever 3 or 4 months to avoid using hull cleaner to get of stained gelcoat. Best $13 I've spent
Just an FYI, this is not a real ceramic coating. Like others have said the large expense comes from the prep work, product cost, and labor of application.

I learned the proper prep and applications methods and did the work myself. my boat is going on its 4th year being coated inside and out. Most of the coating on the interior surfaces that we walk on or touch constantly is worn off. So with no maintenance to the coating, you can expect 3 years (380 hours of run time). The sides of the hull are still in good shape also.

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