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Old 10-30-2008, 07:20 AM
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boatmanalso - 10/29/2008 5:06 PM

I can believe that Luhrs couldn't reproduce the condition.
THEY DID NOT WANT TO FIND THE CONDITIONS.

For starters, They propably said I ain't going out there in that nasty sea condition. At least anyone with a brain would do that.
HAVE YOU EVER LEFT ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY AND THEN IT TURNS NASTY?
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:18 AM
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Reel-Deals-1st - 10/29/2008 12:55 PM Hull 140+ is the same hull as the open and it doesn't have the same issues as the first 39 convertibles. It runs completely different and really isn't a bad hull. The first 41's are not the only model that had these same heeling issues. From what I understand these hulls were designed by Rick Breitenstein who made some shi**y boats and left or was fired right before I started there. I think he was the one that created more issues for Luhrs than anything else, but management apparently went along with him. Again, from what I understand the 41 was never tank tested. When the boats were run they were then pulled out of the water and had putty smeared in the port tunnel to correct the list. Every boat was different, but that goes along with the mentality around there of "pump 'em out". The new 37 was designed by another engineer and he seemed to have a pretty god job with the new model. The 37 a nice hull and runs great. There are certainly some things about it that aren't worth a damn when it comes to fishing, but a descent boat overall. Luhrs has some good hulls, but they also have some very bad ones.


Thanks to you and Boatman28 also for some real info after so much speculation in this thread. Always good to know what REALLY happened.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:23 AM
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real deal.>>> "No, it couldn't be recreated."

Since you claim you did a huge % of the sea trials for Luhrs. Hiding , disguising , using sarcasm and insinuendo to alter a basic statement doesn't change the fact. Get some balls and walk the walk.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:27 AM
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Jimm. You need to blame real deal 1rst for not being able to recreate the condition. He was the one doing the sea trials.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:48 AM
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Boatmanalso, please reread the below, edited to help you reading comprehension

"Hull 140+ is the same hull as the open and it doesn't have the same issues as the first 39 convertibles. .... The first 41's are not the only model that had these same heeling issues. From what I understand these hulls were designed by Rick Breitenstein who made some shi**y boats ... When the boats were run they were then pulled out of the water and had putty smeared in the port tunnel to correct the list. Every boat was different ..."

What part of heeling problems, shi**y boats, correct the list, and every boat was different do you not understand? This from the guy who drove most of them.

And if you had bothered to read more, you'd have found out that the problems areonly withthe first 39 hulls. After that Luhrs came out with the 41 open on a new hulland instead of having two different 41 molds (one of which they new had problems) the convertible was redesigned for the wider 41 open hull.
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:08 AM
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MIfirst. I have understood that claim for over a month now.
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:13 AM
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Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you with my "insinuendos". I hope you have someone read the contract to you on the boat your building...or is that your son? You were originally buying a 41 open and trading your 30...or was that your son? Oh, I got it. Your in bed with a Luhrs dealer up there that is trying to work a deal with...whoever? You speak of credibility, but you need to remember that yours went out the window with your very first post. Whoever bought the 41 I hope they enjoy it be you, your son, your neighbor, or whoever in the hell your trying to represent. I know your not much for reading, but if you look back a little bit I did give you some information on the boat worthy of checking out. Do you have any pictures of the boat other than the ones sitting at yours or your buddies dealership? Certainly you would as such a proud owner...or wait, that was your son.
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:30 AM
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Reel deal 1rst , I'm not representing anyone. Not my son , not some dealer , not Luhrs. If you follow your own advice to go back and read you will find out that when my son bought the boat , I let it be known that I was not the purchacer of the 41 open. How do you think you knew I wasn't????? Are you that clueless? You a mind reader these days???

If you go back and read like you suggest, you'll find out I can't post pictures here. I don't have pictures of my sons 30 or his new boat for that matter. I posted the links to the site that did have pictures of the boats for those asking to see the boats. I offered to send email pics of my boat and the boat i have being built.

I can talk the talk and walk the walk.

Thats how I know you can't.

Its something you'll never be able to do.
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Old 10-30-2008, 11:46 AM
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boatmanalso - 10/30/2008 11:30 AM

Reel deal 1rst , I'm not representing anyone. Not my son , not some dealer , not Luhrs. If you follow your own advice to go back and read you will find out that when my son bought the boat , I let it be known that I was not the purchacer of the 41 open. How do you think you knew I wasn't????? Are you that clueless? You a mind reader these days???

If you go back and read like you suggest, you'll find out I can't post pictures here. I don't have pictures of my sons 30 or his new boat for that matter. I posted the links to the site that did have pictures of the boats for those asking to see the boats. I offered to send email pics of my boat and the boat i have being built.

I can talk the talk and walk the walk.

Thats how I know you can't.

Its something you'll never be able to do.
I was going solely on your credibilty, which like said before "is inexistant". Doubting mine isnt going to help you out any here. So heres to you being able "talk the talk and walk the walk". Im certainly glad this is something Ill never be able to do. Now back to winterizing boats, boatman.

boatmanalso - 9/16/2008 4:22 PM

I'm thinking of getting a 41 demo ....yikes!!!! exactly what model and year is this thread about. Any tips on what I should look/look out for? Thanks!
The sky falling.

boatmanalso - 9/16/2008 6:05 PM

Tommyr. what does speculating Lurhs going bakrupt have to do with what boat is being discussed on this thread and the boat I am concidering buying. Although your quick answer about looking elsewhere may be cutting through alot of BS, i would like to make my own decision for my needs.
Good thing you pointed out "cutting out the BS" for us. Thanks

boatmanalso - 9/16/2008 7:14 PM

My boat is traded in at what i paid for it plus all extras I did to it if I can't find anything wrong . which I can't yet.
Umm no its not.

boatmanalso - 9/16/2008 7:38 PM

did you want me to wait 6 months before I started asking questions. also My boat will be traded in. I am not trying to sell it. you are all fruit cakes!
Fruitcakes?

boatmanalso - 9/17/2008 1:43 PM

I checked the recall. It was for some old models of the 41 convertable. I'm not looking at those. I am thinking og the 41 open.
Looking or thinking?

boatmanalso - 9/17/2008 6:08 PM

Duhhhhhhhhh... I showed up suddenly because I am concidering buying a new 41 and finding out this whole thread is a shame and there is a group of you with a agenda.
Duhhhhhhhhh

boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 11:25 AM

The only intrest in Luhrs is that I am intrested in getting one.
Are you sure about that?

[QUOTE]boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 11:50 AM

Because it is alot of money for me even though it is priced really well.QUOTE]

At a dock hands wage Im sure it is.

boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 2:32 PM

As a possable buyer I need realistic posts about the new 41 open.
Post: Pull your bottom lip over your head and swallow.

boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 4:40 PM

I own a 31 open and I was offered full purchase price for it plus the cost of what I added to it.
31...I thought it was a 30?

boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 5:30 PM

wolakrab.
I haven't seen it in writing probably/mostly because I haven't taken it that far yet. That is what I was told would be part of the deal. I'm sure it is factored in as how much they discount the new boat. It sounds better that way to me. I'm sure the numbers would come out the same no matter what. Yes I am concidering buying a demo. I will be going over the boat with a fine tooth comb. Another poster claimed there are much better boats out there for the same money. I'll look into anyones findings of better boats for the same kind of money. So go seek and find a better boat for me! I'll take you out fishin if I buy it! that goes for anyone!
Probably/Mostly because you need to put the pipe down.

boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 6:33 PM

boat diver. I tried the math and ( I x the msrp by .70 then subtracted what my trade numbers were and came within 10k.

How about I'll check out new 41s or that area in the 400 k to 500k range. that is after they get my trade with my trade in balance paid off by me.
What trade? The 30 or the 31?

boatmanalso - 9/18/2008 6:41 PM

yes tommyr409. I have to do some finance work on the balance . .... I have the people I do that sort of thing with working on that.
Good thing you have people to work on your finances. You need someone to shake the piggy bank.

boatmanalso - 9/20/2008 12:40 PM

boatdive.

I'm not looking for a used boat. Also something along the lines of a 41 open. I guess its the configuration that I like since I have a 31 open and love it. I just was thinking bigger!
Look at all the pretty colors.

boatmanalso - 9/22/2008 7:44 AM

The luhrs 31open landed a 200 lb tuna Saterday. Lost the 400... I beat if I had the 41 open I woulda landed the 400!
Well its a good thing you didnt have the 30 or you wouldnt have sh*t.

boatmanalso - 10/9/2008 3:04 PM

Well ,its a done deal I bought the 41 luhrs. Boy is it alot of work taking all the fishin poles off the 30 open and putting it on the 41,
Fishing poles...Fishing poles...who the F say that? Dont forget your fishin string and bobbers.

boatmanalso - 10/10/2008 5:34 PM

Oh yea... now that the 41 luhrs open purchase is a done deal.... I might as well clue you in on what I had mentioned is a little more the story than I was telling. I did not buy the boat ...my son did. It was him all along who caught the tuna, had the 30 open and traded it in for the 41 open.
And there you have. The most credible guy on THT.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:07 PM
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Nice reel deal1st..... I'm sure the explaination that my son was the real buyer after the purchase covers me for all the posts. >wink< Looks like I'm weeks ahead of you. Let me see if I can make you jump through a ring of fire for my next trick..
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:24 PM
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Boatman, just to clear up any confusion. What are your currently running for a boat? And what are you having built for a new boat?
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:35 PM
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Hey boatman, I hear your mommy calling you for dinner.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:38 PM
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I been called alot of things prober but never called late to dinner!
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:44 PM
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huntfishing. I have a 35' Maine built boat and am getting a 38' Maine built boat.
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:03 PM
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When did you transform from your son to you in your posts. You know you could have gotten your own screen name they are free. I guess it was your son cathing the Tuna's with with his fishing poles and asking all the questions about whats better for catching fish a 31 or a 41 or was that you asking for him? Do you guys share the screen name cause many of your posts about fishing were definetly written by the guy doing the fishing with his fishing poles and joking about telling his wife thats why he lost the fish or was that your son's wife?? Will the real &quot;boatmanalso&quot; please stand up. Also tell your son to get his own screen name so we can here more about his 41 Luhrs with all the fishin poles
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:14 PM
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boatmanalso - 10/30/2008 3:38 PM

I been called alot of things prober but never called late to dinner!



hell you been called 10 thing's since ya got here,so i can only imagine the rest of your 13 year's
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:16 PM
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Listen here shedster, If my son had a wife he probably couldn't afford to buy a boat. Haven't you noticed???? The guys with all the cool toys aren't married.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:16 PM
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Credibility?

boatmanalso - 10/30/2008 3:44 PM

huntfishing. I have a 35' Maine built boat and am getting a 38' Maine built boat.
boatmanalso - 9/25/2008 4:28 PM

Which volvo diesel.
I have a tamd41p and it has been a great engine. It is my second one . The first one I put about 25000 hrs on it and its replacemnet has about 6000 hrs on it. Graet fuel economy.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...ts=16#M2237966
So you have a 35 foot downeaster with a 200 hp light duty engine that you put 25,000 hours on?

Is that correct?
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:29 PM
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Yup. The original volvo which was the same engine as the present 200hp tamd41p was a 165 hp volvo TAMD40b. Not sure how that works but both engines swing/swung the same wheel correctly.... Its nice going out all day long on 6 gallons of fuel and still be amoung the fastest boats in the harbor of the downeaster class.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:47 PM
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Sorry, I can't even begin to believe that.

There is no way you can get 25,000 hours out of that engine, and if you got more than 14 knots out of the combo you would be having a good day; more likely 10-12 if the wind isn't against you. I know sailboats that can do better.

2500 hours on that engine would surprise me. 25,000? Even if that engine were 20 years old, it would mean you spent over 160 days on the water running the engine for at least 8 hours.

Sorry, you just lost any shred of credibility you had with me.



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