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Old 10-07-2008, 02:26 PM
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As you know my Father had disputes with Luhrs regarding his vessel, Miss Sunshine. During the course of the lawsuit my Father sold the boat to a third person and the boat is currently in service. My Father received a partial reimbursement of his out of pocket repair cost that he incurred before the lawsuit and before the Luhrs recall work was completed on the boat. As a result of this resolution, I will not be making any further postings regarding this matter
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:39 AM
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Mr Sunshine - 10/7/2008 2:26 PM As you know my Father had disputes with Luhrs regarding his vessel, Miss Sunshine. During the course of the lawsuit my Father sold the boat to a third person and the boat is currently in service. My Father received a partial reimbursement of his out of pocket repair cost that he incurred before the lawsuit and before the Luhrs recall work was completed on the boat. As a result of this resolution, I will not be making any further postings regarding this matter
Another 41 Luhrsowner paid off to keep their mouth shut.

I bet my last dollar Tommy aka Mr Sunshine was told to post this!!!!! Ihave gotten to knowhim reel well over the last 2.5 years and he HATES Luhrs with a passion. So his post is just B. S.and take it as a grain salt.
  1. Luhrs just needs to take care of the boats they built.
  2. We spent good dollars on these Pieces of chit

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Old 10-08-2008, 11:10 AM
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41 Luhrs, I feel your pain, but IF Luhrs declares bankruptcy this situation could potentially get worse for those with claims. Those with claims/suits will have to get in line with creditors and where will you stand if that were to occur? I don't know the answer but I would surely find out before I dismiss potential settlements.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:07 PM
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Please allow me to provide you guys with some correct information regarding this thread. First of all, my name is Bobby Shepard and my forum names “JYS” stands for Jacksonville Yacht Sales. These are my comments, not Luhrs, not Jacksonville Yacht Sales, not anyone else’s. We are a Luhrs dealer and have been since 1992. We have been the worlds 2nd or 3rd largest Luhrs dealer many times over the years so we have an adequate number of actual Luhrs owners in the field to know precisely what the product is, how the Luhrs company treats their customers, how the boats perform and how they are made. I personally have over 1500 hours behind the wheel of a 41 Luhrs since 2005 and fished and cruised in virtually every kind of sea condition. We are the dealer that “did the paperwork” for another dealer regarding 41Luhrs (the original poster) boat and any of you can go back to my original post on this thread and read my response, some of which I wish I had not put in the public eye, and I apologize for that! However, it was correct information. I am the individual that put the original hours on Ops (original posters) boat and know that boat very well, and know the exact details of the complaints, and any of the repairs that have been done to it, so I do have 1st hand knowledge of a very high percentage of the entire process. I also know exactly how the boat was delivered to the op, and even allowed the op to spend 4 days and 3 nights on the boat before he even officially closed on the boat, understanding that he could have walked away from the boat at any time. I did not trash the boat like has been eluded to, much to the contrary, I have to take better care of mine than most of you do. I know the exact condition the boat was in when it left Florida.

A little recent background on me. I marlin tournament fish in a 41 Luhrs and compete with all of the 50-80 foot multi million dollar battle wagons in the Bahamas Billfish Championship series. For the record, and in a Luhrs 41 boat, we took 1st place blue marlin in the 2006 Boat Harbour BBC tournament, 2nd place overall for the 2007 Boat Harbour BBC tournament, 2nd place overall in the 2008 Marsh Harbour BBC tournament, 2nd place overall in the Harbour Island BBC tournament, 2nd place blue marlin in the Harbour Island BBC tournament, and 3rd place for the 2008 overall SERIES Bahamas Billfish Championship Series. I am not stating these things to brag, just making sure you guys know that I do have actual experience with the Luhrs 41 and its sea keeping abilities and know exactly how it handles and fishes. Quite simply…it’s a great boat, and over the past 4 years of fishing the 41, I can remember any and all of the minor problems that I personally had with the boats….It’s been that short of a list.

There has been a great deal of mis-direction, total untruths, and even photos posted on this forum that are not even from the op boat, along with a bunch of down right BS.

Luhrs is NOT closed, as my office is 5 minutes away from the plant and they do answer the phone, most of the time. They are just like many other boat builders that are trying to survive this crappy economic downturn, and yes, they have laid off many employees in the process, just like Sea Ray, Cabo, Viking, Genmar, Brunswick, Tiara and so on and so on. And yes, there are a lot of disgruntled employees on this thread, and a lot that hide behind the anonymity of a forum name, except for Jeff, and I commend him for that. I sincerely wish all of the employees that have been laid off nothing but the best and hope they all are finding positions with other companies, because most were victims of the economy, which is truly unfortunate! Luhrs is not the only boat company that is having problems as many of you in this thread have eluded to, they are simply trying to weather the storm and unfortunately that means you some times have to make calculated business decisions based on the current state of affairs.

I personally believe that Luhrs makes a damn good boat and I’m proud to fish one and you can bet your azz that I would not be in 400 miles from home port if I didn’t know and believe in the boat. I personally owned 2 Luhrs boats prior to becoming a business partner in JYS. Luhrs has problems with boats just like every builder does. Go buy a 5 million dollar sport fish boat, and tell me that there have not been problems or issues with it…..its just is a fact of life. They break just like every other boat that I have seen, fished or been around, and I have plenty of 1st hand experience from friends that own them.

I know that this is risky, and that I will most likely be hammered by some of you who don’t know me, simply want to egg this thread and or keep it alive, or are ( “plants&rdquo from another side, but I felt it time to post and let you guys and girl that really care about the original post to know that there are many sides to this story, that Luhrs and Luhrs owners are taking it on the chin for a lot of crap that is not even their fault, and thatLuhrs has stood by the original posters boat and done exactly what they were supposed to do…address and correct any warranty items that are covered within the written warranty. They have also done, over the past 2 years, a ton of goodwill reconditioning and/or repairs to the boat, things that they did not have to do. There are agendas other than the boat that are present on this thread. It seems that many times someone else raises a legitimate question, they get bashed, trashed and accused of being a plant from Luhrs, or there is no response to the question. I’m not a Luhrs plant!

I have very limited 1st hand experience with Mr Sunshine’s boat so I should not comment on it, but I hope Tom has had his issues addressed to his satisfaction and wish him the very best and I hope I get to see you in the Bahamas this upcoming year and share some fishing stories, and as always, you can call or email me at any time.

Rick (aka 41LUHRS) you may have gone to the well too many times. It’s really convenient how you mysteriously show up on this forum the same time every year. Lets see….a quick recap of events…Run your "UNSEAWORTHY" boat 100 miles offshore, fish all season, and around September (close to winter storage time for you) show back up on the forum, complain post and bash Luhrs about what a piece of crap the boat is, come up with a “new” and “improved” Punch list, Luhrs arranges to get your boat, reconditions it for you and does all kind of goodwill on the boat to try to make you happy, you pay nothing for it, get free storage for 6 months, spring time nears, you and/or your surveyor show up to inspect and accept the boat, pick it up and go fishing for 6 months until its almost time for the upcoming costly winter haul out, winterization, shrink wrap and storage again, then you hit the forum to see if you can do it again. Saves a bunch of money and you get your boat all pretty again. Pretty good gig! And you still bash Luhrs? I saw your boat when it came to Florida and I saw it before you accepted it back, again… and I inspected the punch list. They even replaced your 3-year-old flybridge eisenglass for you!!! Is it possible that your cyber blackmail is going to work again this year? If the boat is so bad and Luhrs has done nothing about it, why haven’t you filed a lawsuit, hell I would have! Truth is…Luhrs has bent over backwards, front wards and sideways trying to make you happy, but youmay notwant happiness, you seem to have a different agenda. Luhrs continues to take the high road regarding this and you come after them again, on a free public forum. Tell these guys the truth. You had a few issues with your boat and Luhrs stood by it! They even offered to have you traded out of the boat but you refused!!!??? You are simply working it for all that it’s got, and why not, it’s worked for 2 years!!!

Rick I have no problems with you personally at all, but this is absurd. You want the truth for all of these forum members, then put all of it out here…but be prepared for factual responses to your information, along with timelines of action. You say your boat’s a pos, but you still fish it, you state that Luhrs has not taken care of you, that they have done nothing for you, yet you put on the this forum that they caused damage to your boat, which means they had possession of it. Which is it? Have they picked up your boat or not? What specific damage did they cause? What specifically is wrong with your boat? Please send me pictures or put them on this forumso I can compare them to the ones I have. You have not filed any legal litigation, and you continue to get your boat reconditioned for free. If the factory caused so much damage to your boat, why is everyone just now hearing about it, months later, and why on earth would you accept and pick the boat up. I don’t understand??????…. I saw your boat before you picked it up, and it and the sea trial is all on videotape. File a lawsuit if what you say on this forum is true! Again, I don’t understand?

For the rest of the forum members who are on this site for the right reasons, I want to apologize for airing laundry, but it just seemed time to finally do so. This website is very valuable and helps a lot of boat owners around the world, me included, but it’s a down right shame to see someone use it for the wrong reasons. I would be the first one to throw down with a customer if they were getting the shaft!!! As the original post reads “41 Luhrs Buyer Beware”, it just doesn’t say beware of who!

I am not attempting to be rude or even remotely cause any embarrassment to anyone on this forum, I simply want the whole and correct story to get out there. Luhrs builds a lot of boats every year, they have always stood behind their boats, and they will continue to do so. That’s 16 years of Luhrs boat experience speaking. I will try to post back on this thread when I can, but don’t want to live on the computer, so please be patient and I will respond in a timely manner. So it’s off to page 100+ and thank you for reading this lengthy post.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:15 PM
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Well, I guess that pretty much sums it up right there...
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:20 PM
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uh oh shaggy...............
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:10 PM
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Sorry, but the guy who has a vested interest and bashes the boat automatically has more credibility than the guy that has a vested interest and praises the boat. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:55 PM
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Always good to hear the other side. Thanks Bobby!!
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:18 PM
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Bobby, why did you wait so long to respond to this thread. It would seem to me that this is a threat to your business.
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:58 PM
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I have not posted before but have read from day one. I am Toms brother-in-law and have been on numerous trips to the Bahamas on the Luhrs 41. i was on the trip this past weekend in West End on the Ocean with Tom and Tommy. I spoke to you Bobby at the Luhrs tournament in Treasure back when you caught the big marlin. I was also with Tommy when he spoke to the owner of Pelican Yacht sales in Melbourne, a Luhrs dealer, that had just received his first 41. His captain said he spoke to Luhrs about the ride of the boat. He told them "something is wrong". He said Luhrs told him he was the first to complain about the boat. Tom had been in touch with Luhrs for several months at that time.All of this was at Treasure Cay.

The current economy, the future of Luhrs, the cost and time in litigation were all items the Logans considered as the case went on. I will tell you what I know about that boat. It was the biggest POS I have ever been on !! The air conditioner never worked, the holding tank would leak gallons on waste into the hull as soon as the boat started to move.The CO2 alarms went off all night long (the salon and living space were not sealed, it fact the a/c draws air from the engine room.The boat was started by jumping the cylanoids with a screwdriver for 2 years, Luhrs was unable to ever get the switches to work.The boat had structual cracks and delamination everywhere.The hardtop and engine room had leaks everywhere.The boat would lean to the port side in minimal seas. The shower would leak all over the floor. The engine room had a constant 3 " of water. While on plane the cockpit would have "mist" that would have the fisherman soaking wet in 45 minutes.This boat was a piece of junk. Bobby please tell the truth. Why have you come back now when Tommy can not respond ? I know that Tommy reached out to you in 2006 for help. I know he purchased the boat at Northside but you could have made a effort to get his situation resolved. I have never been on Luhrs 41 boat but I have told you what I know about Tom Logans boat. Read the survey reports that Tommy attached to this thread and you will see the truth about the Luhrs 41
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POS-L-4ONE - 10/8/2008 5:58 PM


I have not posted before but have read from day one. I am Toms brother-in-law and have been on numerous trips to the Bahamas on the Luhrs 41. i was on the trip this past weekend in West End on the Ocean with Tom and Tommy. I spoke to you Bobby at the Luhrs tournament in Treasure back when you caught the big marlin. I was also with Tommy when he spoke to the owner of Pelican Yacht sales in Melbourne, a Luhrs dealer, that had just received his first 41. His captain said he spoke to Luhrs about the ride of the boat. He told them "something is wrong". He said Luhrs told him he was the first to complain about the boat. Tom had been in touch with Luhrs for several months at that time.All of this was at Treasure Cay.

The current economy, the future of Luhrs, the cost and time in litigation were all items the Logans considered as the case went on. I will tell you what I know about that boat. It was the biggest POS I have ever been on !! The air conditioner never worked, the holding tank would leak gallons on waste into the hull as soon as the boat started to move.The CO2 alarms went off all night long (the salon and living space were not sealed, it fact the a/c draws air from the engine room.The boat was started by jumping the cylanoids with a screwdriver for 2 years, Luhrs was unable to ever get the switches to work.The boat had structual cracks and delamination everywhere.The hardtop and engine room had leaks everywhere.The boat would lean to the port side in minimal seas. The shower would leak all over the floor. The engine room had a constant 3 " of water. While on plane the cockpit would have "mist" that would have the fisherman soaking wet in 45 minutes.This boat was a piece of junk. Bobby please tell the truth. Why have you come back now when Tommy can not respond ? I know that Tommy reached out to you in 2006 for help. I know he purchased the boat at Northside but you could have made a effort to get his situation resolved. I have never been on Luhrs 41 boat but I have told you what I know about Tom Logans boat. Read the survey reports that Tommy attached to this thread and you will see the truth about the Luhrs 41
could you please explain???
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:21 PM
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jys - 10/8/2008 12:07 PM



Please allow me to provide you guys with some correct information regarding this thread. First of all, my name is Bobby Shepard and my forum names “JYS” stands for Jacksonville Yacht Sales. These are my comments, not Luhrs, not Jacksonville Yacht Sales, not anyone else’s. We are a Luhrs dealer and have been since 1992. We have been the worlds 2nd or 3rd largest Luhrs dealer many times over the years so we have an adequate number of actual Luhrs owners in the field to know precisely what the product is, how the Luhrs company treats their customers, how the boats perform and how they are made. I personally have over 1500 hours behind the wheel of a 41 Luhrs since 2005 and fished and cruised in virtually every kind of sea condition. We are the dealer that “did the paperwork” for another dealer regarding 41Luhrs (the original poster) boat and any of you can go back to my original post on this thread and read my response, some of which I wish I had not put in the public eye, and I apologize for that! However, it was correct information. I am the individual that put the original hours on Ops (original posters) boat and know that boat very well, and know the exact details of the complaints, and any of the repairs that have been done to it, so I do have 1st hand knowledge of a very high percentage of the entire process. I also know exactly how the boat was delivered to the op, and even allowed the op to spend 4 days and 3 nights on the boat before he even officially closed on the boat, understanding that he could have walked away from the boat at any time. I did not trash the boat like has been eluded to, much to the contrary, I have to take better care of mine than most of you do. I know the exact condition the boat was in when it left Florida.

A little recent background on me. I marlin tournament fish in a 41 Luhrs and compete with all of the 50-80 foot multi million dollar battle wagons in the Bahamas Billfish Championship series. For the record, and in a Luhrs 41 boat, we took 1st place blue marlin in the 2006 Boat Harbour BBC tournament, 2nd place overall for the 2007 Boat Harbour BBC tournament, 2nd place overall in the 2008 Marsh Harbour BBC tournament, 2nd place overall in the Harbour Island BBC tournament, 2nd place blue marlin in the Harbour Island BBC tournament, and 3rd place for the 2008 overall SERIES Bahamas Billfish Championship Series. I am not stating these things to brag, just making sure you guys know that I do have actual experience with the Luhrs 41 and its sea keeping abilities and know exactly how it handles and fishes. Quite simply…it’s a great boat, and over the past 4 years of fishing the 41, I can remember any and all of the minor problems that I personally had with the boats….It’s been that short of a list.

There has been a great deal of mis-direction, total untruths, and even photos posted on this forum that are not even from the op boat, along with a bunch of down right BS.

Luhrs is NOT closed, as my office is 5 minutes away from the plant and they do answer the phone, most of the time. They are just like many other boat builders that are trying to survive this crappy economic downturn, and yes, they have laid off many employees in the process, just like Sea Ray, Cabo, Viking, Genmar, Brunswick, Tiara and so on and so on. And yes, there are a lot of disgruntled employees on this thread, and a lot that hide behind the anonymity of a forum name, except for Jeff, and I commend him for that. I sincerely wish all of the employees that have been laid off nothing but the best and hope they all are finding positions with other companies, because most were victims of the economy, which is truly unfortunate! Luhrs is not the only boat company that is having problems as many of you in this thread have eluded to, they are simply trying to weather the storm and unfortunately that means you some times have to make calculated business decisions based on the current state of affairs.

I personally believe that Luhrs makes a damn good boat and I’m proud to fish one and you can bet your azz that I would not be in 400 miles from home port if I didn’t know and believe in the boat. I personally owned 2 Luhrs boats prior to becoming a business partner in JYS. Luhrs has problems with boats just like every builder does. Go buy a 5 million dollar sport fish boat, and tell me that there have not been problems or issues with it…..its just is a fact of life. They break just like every other boat that I have seen, fished or been around, and I have plenty of 1st hand experience from friends that own them.

I know that this is risky, and that I will most likely be hammered by some of you who don’t know me, simply want to egg this thread and or keep it alive, or are ( “plants”) from another side, but I felt it time to post and let you guys and girl that really care about the original post to know that there are many sides to this story, that Luhrs and Luhrs owners are taking it on the chin for a lot of crap that is not even their fault, and that Luhrs has stood by the original posters boat and done exactly what they were supposed to do…address and correct any warranty items that are covered within the written warranty. They have also done, over the past 2 years, a ton of goodwill reconditioning and/or repairs to the boat, things that they did not have to do. There are agendas other than the boat that are present on this thread. It seems that many times someone else raises a legitimate question, they get bashed, trashed and accused of being a plant from Luhrs, or there is no response to the question. I’m not a Luhrs plant!

I have very limited 1st hand experience with Mr Sunshine’s boat so I should not comment on it, but I hope Tom has had his issues addressed to his satisfaction and wish him the very best and I hope I get to see you in the Bahamas this upcoming year and share some fishing stories, and as always, you can call or email me at any time.

Rick (aka 41LUHRS) you may have gone to the well too many times. It’s really convenient how you mysteriously show up on this forum the same time every year. Lets see….a quick recap of events…Run your "UNSEAWORTHY" boat 100 miles offshore, fish all season, and around September (close to winter storage time for you) show back up on the forum, complain post and bash Luhrs about what a piece of crap the boat is, come up with a “new” and “improved” Punch list, Luhrs arranges to get your boat, reconditions it for you and does all kind of goodwill on the boat to try to make you happy, you pay nothing for it, get free storage for 6 months, spring time nears, you and/or your surveyor show up to inspect and accept the boat, pick it up and go fishing for 6 months until its almost time for the upcoming costly winter haul out, winterization, shrink wrap and storage again, then you hit the forum to see if you can do it again. Saves a bunch of money and you get your boat all pretty again. Pretty good gig! And you still bash Luhrs? I saw your boat when it came to Florida and I saw it before you accepted it back, again… and I inspected the punch list. They even replaced your 3-year-old flybridge eisenglass for you!!! Is it possible that your cyber blackmail is going to work again this year? If the boat is so bad and Luhrs has done nothing about it, why haven’t you filed a lawsuit, hell I would have! Truth is…Luhrs has bent over backwards, front wards and sideways trying to make you happy, but you may not want happiness, you seem to have a different agenda. Luhrs continues to take the high road regarding this and you come after them again, on a free public forum. Tell these guys the truth. You had a few issues with your boat and Luhrs stood by it! They even offered to have you traded out of the boat but you refused!!!??? You are simply working it for all that it’s got, and why not, it’s worked for 2 years!!!

Rick I have no problems with you personally at all, but this is absurd. You want the truth for all of these forum members, then put all of it out here…but be prepared for factual responses to your information, along with timelines of action. You say your boat’s a pos, but you still fish it, you state that Luhrs has not taken care of you, that they have done nothing for you, yet you put on the this forum that they caused damage to your boat, which means they had possession of it. Which is it? Have they picked up your boat or not? What specific damage did they cause? What specifically is wrong with your boat? Please send me pictures or put them on this forum so I can compare them to the ones I have. You have not filed any legal litigation, and you continue to get your boat reconditioned for free. If the factory caused so much damage to your boat, why is everyone just now hearing about it, months later, and why on earth would you accept and pick the boat up. I don’t understand??????…. I saw your boat before you picked it up, and it and the sea trial is all on videotape. File a lawsuit if what you say on this forum is true! Again, I don’t understand?

For the rest of the forum members who are on this site for the right reasons, I want to apologize for airing laundry, but it just seemed time to finally do so. This website is very valuable and helps a lot of boat owners around the world, me included, but it’s a down right shame to see someone use it for the wrong reasons. I would be the first one to throw down with a customer if they were getting the shaft!!! As the original post reads “41 Luhrs Buyer Beware”, it just doesn’t say beware of who!

I am not attempting to be rude or even remotely cause any embarrassment to anyone on this forum, I simply want the whole and correct story to get out there. Luhrs builds a lot of boats every year, they have always stood behind their boats, and they will continue to do so. That’s 16 years of Luhrs boat experience speaking. I will try to post back on this thread when I can, but don’t want to live on the computer, so please be patient and I will respond in a timely manner. So it’s off to page 100+ and thank you for reading this lengthy post.
I agree.

Both Mr Sunshine & 41Luhrs were screwed by Luhrs.

And JYS are weasels.

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:50 PM
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Pass the popcorn, this chit is going to get interesting again! JYS (Bobby) you have been called out so you better start living on the computer.
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The air conditioning leaked freon because of over 40 quick connects in the freon lines. The system was designed this way. Every trip time you would take the boat out the vibration would cause the freon to leak out. The cabin would be so hot becuse of the engine room and no air. There were large holes and spaces thru the deck behind the cabinets that led right to the engine room.The dryer was vented to the engine room from the salon. The air handler were behind the sofa and washer/dryer cabinets, both locations had large holes right next to wher the air was sucked into the system. This would allow the fumes from the engine room to run straight to the air, this was the reason for the CO2 alarms to go off. There were many nights we had to leave to cabin for fear of CO2 poison. Very dangerous situation, I forgot to mention the engine room had no ventilation and Tom was told the engines were starving for air
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POS.....back to your original post...YOU SAID the air conditioner NEVER WORKED.......now did it work sometimes or not at all??
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Anybody looking for a 41 luhrs????

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bluffman2 - 10/8/2008 10:18 PM

POS.....back to your original post...YOU SAID the air conditioner NEVER WORKED.......now did it work sometimes or not at all??
I would quess if something never worked properly most people would say it never worked.

If it worked the way described by POS I know I would say the dang AC never worked, when describing it to someone.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:52 AM
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Joenew61, I am not looking to gain credibility for me,nor do I want to discredit anyone else. I simply want the entire story out there.

Oneil469, I waited because I knew what was going on behind the scenes, that Luhrs was doing everything that they could to make the op happy, and that eventually the correct information would get out there. Bad PR is always a threat to business, but the entire truth is always good for everybody.

POS-L-4ONE, I remember meeting you in Treasure....Fun times! Glad things are going well with the new boat and I hope I get a chance to see it this upcoming season. The Pelican boat was a 2006 model, and I remember talking to Mark (the owner of Pelican) but he didn't make any comments about the boat to me personally, but their boat was a 2006 model, not a 2005. I don't know what, if anything was wrong with the boat.I haven't been privy to much info regarding Toms boat, and I did speak with him on a couple of occaisions to see if I could assist him with anything, and he told me that he had been having a lot of A/C problems, and that he didn't think that things were getting done fast and correct enough to resolve the issue. I told him that I too had some A/C issues and would make some calls on his behalf. I called, set some things up as best I could, then followed up with a call to Tom while on the way to Mexico in the boat. He told me that everything was moving along and that he appreciated my help. A week or so later when I go back to the states, I was being bashed on the forum for simply trying to help another dealers customer. I called Tom and we discusssed it, and among other things, he asked me if we were having fuel site guage leaks and I told him that I was not aware of any leaks in our customers boats, but I would check them just in case. Thats about the extent of our conversations. I only wanted to provide assistance to ensure Tom was getting the attention that he deserved. I would inquire about the boat occaisonally with Luhrs, and get some updates, but just general information only, no specifics. The rest of the issues you listed in your post are issues that I really had not seen, on my boat or our customers boats, with the exception of minor fresh water ponding on the outboard sides of the engines, which we figured out where it was coming from and corrected the issue, and the pain in the a$$ shower door letting water escape onto the floor. Not a major thing but a real inconvenience, but that too was addressed and a correction was made. I too had leaks from the hardtop, but it was a self inflicted electronics installation wound that was simply just not caulked properly from the get-go.If Toms boat was a piece of junk, you and everyone associated with it have a right tobe upset if problems were not addressed! I would too!I'm just like you and every boat owner, I want to fish and have fun! I have posted to this thread because of Ricks last post because it's totally incorrect, and i felt it time to finally respond.I sincerely hope that you and your family are happily boating and fishing and will buy you a round the next time I see you in the Bahamas, and as always, you can call or email me at any time.

CLK, I can understand your feelings, and if I read this thread and did not have all of the information, I would probably feel the same way as you. However, there is ALOT more to this than is on this forum. Rick stated that Luhrs has done nothing and has pretty much abandoned him and does not stand behind their product. Simply not true!

Kylesdad, i don't necessarily seewhat a 41 being offered for sale at a cheap price has to do with this, or has any relavancy to getting answers to real questions, but torespond to your post.....yes the boat is for sale and yes it's cheap. But it's cheap because the ownerwants to sell it quickly, not because of the boat, but because of personal and business reasons. There are some real bargins out there right now, and as many threads on this forum have mentioned, boat prices are just like real estate and houses right now...if you want to sell them, they better be a bargain, whether it's a Luhrs, Cabo, Viking, Hatteras, Bayliner, or any boat. Heck, even some of the custom builders are having difficulties, its a product of this economy right now. If you don't believe me, try selling your boat right now.

LinMar, you are exactly right, if a salon style boat does not have a properly working A/C unit in the state of Florida, it is down right miserable.!!!

Thanks for the responses and questions guys. I will keep trying to answer them as they roll in. Got to go to work now and try to figure out how to pay for diesel fuel!!!
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:04 PM
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Well ,its a done deal I bought the 41 luhrs. Boy is it alot of work taking all the fishin poles off the 30 open and putting it on the 41,

Did anyone get out TUNA fishing last weelend? They were all over the place busting out of water!
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:50 PM
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boatmanalso - 10/9/2008 5:04 PM

Well ,its a done deal I bought the 41 luhrs. Boy is it alot of work taking all the fishin poles off the 30 open and putting it on the 41,

Did anyone get out TUNA fishing last weelend? They were all over the place busting out of water!



great!! let's see some picture's of it
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