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Old 05-17-2008, 08:41 AM
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They would build them if they could sell them. They combined the line with 2 others. The line builds what they can se4ll. They like to run one model for a while before changing over but that isnt possible now. What word of mouth didnt kill the setup at the Miami boat show did. Dumbest setup Ive ever seen. Coupled with the fact that you couldnt give one away right now. They changed alot in the boat and its alot better than yours but the caliber of people building them now is the problem. Just not enough knolegable people to go around. They combined so many lines now that it makes it so much harder to build in quality. Much easier when you build the same thing day after day. The biggest problem right now is probably still Lamination. Not enouge knowledgable to do it properly it makes it almost impossible to fix in a timely enough manner. To late now the decision s have already been made. The point of no return.
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:59 AM
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The engine trans package is put together by Cummins. Cummins would not put an inferior trans on their engine when they would be the ones replacing them. I cant remember the model exactly, but I know the engine HP is at the top of the range for the trans provided. I know this has gone round and round, but I have spoken with Cummins and they certified the package as being correct. As far as the new 41s go, they are a completely different boat and handle accordingly. Only the first 39 were the bad hulls. Like whatever said, "lamo is a serious problem". The issues there only get compound later on. The new 41s aren't a bad boat. With the lines combined the way they are you don't have the repetitiveness that you had before. Hell, by the time the 41s come back on line Luhrs has probably recycled builders. Lay everyone off one week, hire new hands the next. I'm no rocket scientist and it may be by ignorance as to the way business is actually operated, but if I shot myself in one foot I sure as hell wouldn't shoot my other foot just to confirm that hurt.
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:28 AM
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Very well put. I agree that cummins is one of the best at staying ahead of everyone and backing there product. The twin Cummins in MY SANITY were a very good choice. Best engine you could get. Just an opinion of course.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:19 PM
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Reel-Deals-1st - 5/17/2008 8:59 AM

I'm no rocket scientist and it may be by ignorance as to the way business is actually operated, but if I shot myself in one foot I sure as hell wouldn't shoot my other foot just to confirm that hurt.
That was hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:23 PM
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I heard a rumor from 3 different people with some connections in the marine industry -- They said Friday will be the last day of operations for Luhrs and Mainship. I don't know if that will be the case --- time will tell
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:59 PM
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What is the deal with the 41 OPEN - does it has the same faulty handling characteristics and what has their track record been for durability? Any ideas. I almost bought one of them but went a different direction when the dealer I used said they had warranty issues with Luhrs. I had owned a 29 open a few years back and I really liked it. The only major problem being it had 8.2 GMs which left no room to service the engines. Other than that I had no complaints- I actually liked it better than the Pursuit '97 2870 that I owned prior that would jar your teeth out in a head sea. One of my friends used to bring a football mouthpiece with him to joke with me about it!
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:22 PM
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The 41 Open is the new hull. When the 41 Hull was made it performed well and they started building the CV on that hull. There were some issues ith the open while coming thru production, but the screws were tightened on the those and addressed. The newer models would be much better off than an early hull.

Depending on the dealer, Luhrs doesnt and hasnt had the best dealer network. You cant believe everything you hear.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:23 PM
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Has anyone actually read all these threads......................WOW !!!!!!
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:58 AM
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Mr Sunshine - 5/19/2008 4:23 PM


I heard a rumor from 3 different people with some connections in the marine industry -- They said Friday will be the last day of operations for Luhrs and Mainship. I don't know if that will be the case --- time will tell

Oh I believe it! With all the good people let go and 7 dollars an hour people trying to build boats that the "good boys" built no wonder they falling apart. Luhrs has done this to them self and I feel for the true Mainship guys that built good boats and stood up for them till the end. Good Job "Georgia Boys"

Some else said on here that a dealer on the west coast turned a boat back I heard the same thing but I will not say the dealers name or company.

Take the name now with a grain of salt and I wish the 41 owners luck in there journey!!!
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:07 PM
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After what they have done to their customers and employees it would do us a world of good. As far as the shafts go they use aquamet shafting and all of the the boat were at the top of the scale as far as stength to horsepower ratio. Thats why the were snapping. They do have a lawsuit against their vender I believe. there were alot of shafts breaking on 32's and 38's.
This company has no regard for their help. The big dogs got what they wanted and all of the rest got squat. After what I have seen I feel for the owners. Its a pretty boat but you need experienced people to assemble them.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:20 AM
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It's been awhile but I've heard so much it's unreal. I have to say this Luhrs took some good people and gave them the shaft. Lucky I got out when I did but I know a couple guys that got hit good.

I feel for the owners of the 41's. They was a problem and Luhrs should of fixed it. The top dogs sit in there office thinking how they can make cuts and still keep the lines going. Two son-in-laws keep their jobs just cause of who they are and take good man away so they can make cuts.

some of those that had well over 20 years in and some who followed there three damn states just cause they was hard working. Then to be shafted for what so you can cut corners. Well I would not piss on Luhrs if they was on fire!!!

I hope all comes out and Luhrs gets what's coming to them!!!
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:52 PM
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I second that word for word
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:44 PM
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Its time for them to go away. They have done enough damage. Drove by there today and doesn't seem like alot of action going on as well as the sister company across the creek. It would make a nice place for a park. Anyone ever tell you guys that the first 41 that got wet had the rudder towers collapsed on the first sea trial. Another little bit of trivia. Aren't you supposed to align an engine when the boat is in the water
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:13 AM
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If its a Yanmar engine they do check it in the water somewhat. Yanmar runs and signs off on all. The problem is that all else is inferior the engine has a better chance of shifting. I apoligise to MOST of the Luhrs employees and all of the Mainship employees. They just went to work and did what they were tought to do. Now that Luhrs and Mainship are one again you cant differentiate between them so they both must go. Enough is enough. Maybe Bill and the rest of the good ole boys can go and opperate on Silverton and Hunter for a couple years. If they squeeze hard enough they could probably get another year os so out of them before they close them down. Good luck to all the goog employees and their families. A waranty is a waranty. No other way to look at it.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:36 AM
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Reel-Deals-1st - 5/16/2008 1:29 PM

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I should have referred to you as EX-Luhrs employee -- I just cut and paste the survey report from Flemming on Feb 27th --Where in the hell does he "sign-off" on the repairs. If I ever see your sorry little ass --I will knock your teeth out.
So are you saying he didn't ride on and inspect the boat before it left the factory. By no means am I saying Luhrs did things right especially when the issues could have been addressed pre-production. I don't think your going public the way you did really helped your cause either in the end. I think it would have been more beneficial to wait until after the fact, but I guess you had your reasons. I sure hope that Ocean holds up for you for a lot of peoples sake. Hey, you made your bed and now you have to lie in it.
If he saved 1 0r 2 people from buying one of these boats going public was a great thing even if it was not in his best interest. I've followed this thread from its start and he gave Luhrs time to solve the problems and they gave him the run around. Mr. Sunshine I hope you can move on in life and enjoy your new boat. Just remember you probably saved a couple of people from buying the 41 and the aggravations it has caused you and your family.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:38 PM
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Can someone explain this to me?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...es&slim=broker
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:46 PM
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It says it has a new 2008 hull????????????????? did it sink or hit something?
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:53 PM
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Four Pyrates II - 5/22/2008 6:46 PM

It says it has a new 2008 hull????????????????? did it sink or hit something?

The description would lead you to believe there was some sort of problem with the boat and that Luhrs stepped up to the plate and replaced the hull then put the boat back together using the components of the original boat. Sort of like stellar product support from the factory?!
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:56 PM
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From the Yacht World Web site:

• “Bait & SEA” started out as a 2004 Luhrs 30’ Hard Top sport fishing vessel. It remained in dealership inventory until the present owner took title in September 2006. Survey showed the vessel to be acceptable but for a few usual problems. While in dry dock for a bottom job it was noticed that there were problems with the construction of the hull. The vessel at this time had only 40 hours on it. The vessel was not launched and further inspections were done to determine that the hull was not repairable. After some litigation time it was decided by the Luhrs Corporation to reconstruct the vessel implementing a new built 2008 hull assemble, utilizing the existing topside module and some major equipment.

• Beginning in July 2007 a new hull was constructed to 2008 standards, employing new techniques as far as lay up, coring, exhaust outlets, tunnel arrangement, struts and rudder hardware and attachments. Included in the new hull new equipment was install as follows, but not limited to: all bilge pumps, float switches hoses. All thru hull fittings, sea valves and strainers. Propeller shafts, struts, shaft logs, shaft seals, shaft couplings and rudder ports and seals. All hose clamps, bilge and exhaust hoses. New style Sea Land toilet pump and tank unit with hoses and holding tank were installed. New Bennet trim tabs, pistons and pump along with new Steering piston, power steering unit and auto pilot pump and tri data transducer for the electronics were installed. New swim steps were installed on the transom.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:17 PM
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I can not understand how it was economically feasible to disassemble the old boat, start with a new hull then take everything and reinstall rather than strip the old boat, discard the hull and deck then sell off the components and give the poor owner a NEW boat. Even if it was a brand new boat using the original serial number.
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