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Old 05-16-2008, 04:03 PM
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WHoa, this thread is still alive. I was thinking, if you tell this story to a non-boater person, they would never believe it. Man pays 700k for a boat, finds out it's defective after he buys it. Trys to tell the company to fix, gives up, sells boat for half the price. In the course of two years, wasted countless hours, is out 380k, and yeah maybe 380k is nothing to some boaters, but 2 years of lost boating time is priceless. Funny how as boaters you can actually believe something like this.

You know, the Luhrs brothers are lucky they are dealing with a civil person. Imagine if they were dealing with a Tony Soprano type person, they would be swimmin' with fishes.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:06 PM
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Ralph knows what I thought concerning the issues with his boat. I really dont want to talk about his boat or situation. He had his issues for sure and I know they were being addressed at the time I left. He and Dane came to the factory multiple times to oversee the progress. I certainly have my own feeling about these boats and I think Ralph knows them. Its ashame these 39 boats have killed it for the rest of the line. Luhrs does build some good boats and has built their share of not so good.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:56 PM
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Damn - I wish Luhrs 41 was a stock and I has shorted it 2 days ago! 71 pages to get to the good stuff finally.

Sunshine and Sanity, my condolences. I know how fired up you can get buying a boat and I am sure many people could have overlooked the issues. FWIW the guys running Luhrs are going to be far worse off than you when this all shakes out....
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:55 PM
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I was on the My Sanity boat in Florida. I know the truth. Luhrs use to build a good boat a few years ago. Then everything became profit. They started cutting corners in lamo first and thats what is showing up now. Wait untill the rest of the cut corners start showing up. I for one am glad to see this still fired up and not swept under the rug like the rest that all of you dont know about.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:07 PM
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I had the pleasure of running alot of the early hulls and had issues also major tabbing problems with the FLOATING module. can anyone tell me why they changed rudders and wheels early on? These people spent alot of money on these boats and deserve to get the proper performance as well as feeling safe while running the boats.
By now anyone that owns a 41 knows who I am and knows that I do have alot to say.
I watched this thread for along time but now its time for you to hear the real truth. I feel for all of the those who have lost their jobs and I think I will let them know about the hull truth. They could care less about their employees!
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:25 PM
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Yea their fix was to bring back ROGER , THE GREAT SAVIOR. THAT REALLY HELPED. THERE IS NOW A SIGN IN THE PERSONAL OFFICE HIRING FOR ALL POSITIONS. THEY ARE HIRING $7:00 PER HOUR EMPLOYEES TO REPLACE THE 10 AND 20 YEAR EMPLOYEES THEY GOT RID OF. ALOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THAT HUH. GOOD PLAN ROGER. WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS BILL. NICE JOB.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:56 PM
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Yes some good guys were let go. Good Mainship guys too!!!! Mainship will go downhill because of Luhrs running the show. Should of left Mainship in Midway GA those guys were doing good, till they moved them to Fl so they could bail Luhrs out now Mainship as the same fate as Luhrs.

I hope all Luhrs and Mainship are watching this site. Watch your back guys and girls your jobs will be gone soon. They let some good people go. Some great Mainship guys and for what??? So you could pay 7:00 dollars an hour for someone to build a boat. Wonder how many dealers stop taking the Luhrs/Mainship.

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Old 05-16-2008, 07:23 PM
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Roger is not the reason for the issues. He came into this well into the issues. Unfortunately, he has become the scape-goat because he is the face that is there now. The issues go well beyond Roger. I don't know Roger all that well, but I have listened to him speak more than once and I can say "the man has a hell of a head on his shoulders". As far as the dealers not taking boats. I would put money on it that it has to due more with the down turn in the economy than it does with the negative publicity. A dealer has a floor plan that accommodates only so many boats. The dealer is paying for these boats while they are at their dock. If sales are down the dealer has to absorb the payments. How many boat payments do think a dealer can pay if boats aren't selling? Do you honestly think Luhrs boats are the only ones not selling right now?
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:32 PM
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I don't know who you are yet Boatman -- but you must have worked at Luhrs. I know you are not Schoolfield !!!! I would like to know about the wheels and rudder. I know my rudders were falling out AFTER the boat was returned to me because Mike Hankins did not authorized the rudders to be fixed .I did not find this out until another owner (who got his boat purchased by Luhrs) called me to warn me of the safety of my 1 year old at the time. He had heard I had a young child on board. I don't know how a company could let a family with a young child cross the gulf stream on a regular basis (which they knew I did) in a boat that unsafe. If it was not for this owner I would not have been aware of the problem.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:26 PM
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No Roger most certainly was not the original problem. It was a whole lot of bad decisions on the part of Bill Finney. Who the hell in there right mind would put Jim Krueger in charge of Mainship. The economy isnt to blame for the dealer in Bradenton Fl. planning to take on Luhrs and then changing there mind because you couldnt give one away at the boat show. There still selling Mainships although I heard the last one that got to them they turned the truck around and sent it back to the plant because of the bottom. Now you try to blame that on the economy if you want but with the problems they have with the 41's wouldnt you think they would check all before they left the plant. Blame that on Roger. If you get the chance ask the Alabama people about him. Looks like a turd, smells like a turd,good chance it will taste like a turd to.
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Old 05-17-2008, 04:27 AM
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Wow! This thread is certainly taking a new direction. I wonder how long it will last now that Luhr's (ex)employees are starting to post. I predict THT's new owners will be getting some threatening communication from Luhr's very soon.

I applaud the Luhr's employees posting here. It is evident that they care about building a quality boat and they are just as disappointed as the 41 owners. I wish them the best of luck in their new careers!

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Old 05-17-2008, 04:40 AM
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Ohh, another good episode.

I applaud Luhrs 41 and Mr. Sunshine for bringing their side of the story in the open, and for the Luhrs affiliates who replied. No disrespect meant, but most of the associate replies strenght 41 & Sun's position in my mind. I can now tell people who ask my opinion to avoid a Luhrs at all costs, without any remorse.

The CO situation in my opinion is sooo unacceptable! I guess Luhr's pocketbook supercedes their customers' safety and life. Good to know.

Mr. Sunshine-Best of luck with the Ocean. I think you will be very happy with it. Ocean's mentality is basically once they have you in an Ocean (either new or used) they will do everything they can to make sure you will always be in an Ocean.
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:12 AM
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Ok the economy is bad and yes dealers are turning down boats from alot of company's not just the Luhrs line.

Mainship always put there costumers first but Not Luhrs. Now that Mainship is in St. Augustine it's the same thing. Mainship were good boats. I will now just sit back and watch and keep my mouth closed!!!
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:19 AM
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The shame in it is the fact that the bad hulls or the bad press didnt change anything. They still are strictly money driven. Its hard to believe that Warren or John Luhrs would let this continue with a company that they brougtht back from their dads grave so long ago. They cant be that blind. I saw the Mainship 34 pull back in the plant last week comming back from the dealer after he refused to take it. It was because of bottom issues. The dealer never even took it off the truck. It was noticable right away. How can you stay in buisness like that. What happened to pride.
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:39 AM
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Good Morning Mr Sunshine,
In the earlydays of the 41 cv they had handling issues so they sent an engineer to Northside marine to figure out the problem. They must have changes at least 5 sets of rudders which made no difference. They tried different wheels and no change.
Why do you think Rick Brietenstien left as soon as the pressure started. Answer me this all of you boaters. You running a 33 lb boat at cruising speed and someone walks from port to starboard and the boats leans over. Does the make sense. I could see it on a 17 foot bot but not a 41 foot boat.
I offered my help which got me no where. This thread should get interesting once the old employees get tuned in.
Jeff they put the screws to you didn't they?
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:42 AM
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I dont think Jack Knows how to type :
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:55 AM
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Good morning Boatman28,whatever,however,Reel-Deals-1st
Tell us more about your dealings with the 41 Luhrs and its problems that you have first hand knowledge about. Remember it has to be the truth or they can pull your statement

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Old 05-17-2008, 06:51 AM
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Still having friends and acquaintances that work there and sell their boats its ashamed Luhrs hasn't learned much from all of this. They seriously need to think about stopping everything for a little while and regrouping. They need to figure out who is an asset and who is a liability. If they don't get everyone on the same page soon, I'm afraid they will put themselves past the point of no return. There is no way possible that the top dogs don't know what has been going. I cant fathom how they could let it continue. The "good ole' boy" network sure as hell isn't working. St. Augustine isnt a very big city and a thriving Luhrs could offer 300+ jobs. It just seems like the more and more people I talk to have worked for them or know someone who has worked for them and wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. There just isn't anything good about that.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:30 AM
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Reel-Deals-1st - 5/17/2008 9:51 AM

Still having friends and acquaintances that work there and sell their boats its ashamed Luhrs hasn't learned much from all of this. They seriously need to think about stopping everything for a little while and regrouping. They need to figure out who is an asset and who is a liability. If they don't get everyone on the same page soon, I'm afraid they will put themselves past the point of no return. There is no way possible that the top dogs don't know what has been going. I cant fathom how they could let it continue. The "good ole' boy" network sure as hell isn't working. St. Augustine isnt a very big city and a thriving Luhrs could offer 300+ jobs. It just seems like the more and more people I talk to have worked for them or know someone who has worked for them and wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. There just isn't anything good about that.

Sounds to me as if there are many more "Liabilities than Assets" and the people in the "regrouping and figureing out "catagory are the ones that over time have become the liability.

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Old 05-17-2008, 08:05 AM
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Good Morning Gentlemen

I heard about the testing at Northside Boatman. I heard Jim Penix had some advice for them (assuming that is not who you are Boatman) at that time. He told me about the "testing". Whatever -- Are the producing the 41 anymore -- are the new ones any better ? I have heard they are not ?? What about the Cummings/horse power/transmission talk -- I would like to hear what you have to say about that
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