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Old 05-31-2020, 04:31 AM
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I am considering moving up from a 34 Regulator with 3x300 HP (For sale) to a Convertible. The 42 Viking with IPS is the boat I am most dialed into. This boat will be cruised in the NE and Fished offshore. My question is most brokers have expressed concerns for the IPS boats and I believe Viking is not longer using the Cummings 600 with IPS drives. Plus it seems these boat took a deep depreciation. Can anyone share a real life experience as to why and what am I getting myself into.
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For a short time, it seemed pods were going to be the future. That seems to have changed. All the big builders have gone to offering, if not pushing traditional shafts. Like you are finding, pod boats are actually demanding less money on the resale market. The demand just isn’t there.
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Don't do it!

Too many headaches according to my engine guy and he sees lots of boats. His stories are scary.
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Theres a reason theyre depreciating so quick, maintence is an issue , not alot of people want to work on them, hit anything underwater and the pod breaks off and its an expensive hit , and from what alot of people say constant mechanical issues ..... 42 viking is nice boat but I liked the ride of the 48& 52 better something about that small makes em feel corky
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Originally Posted by Southport27 View Post
I am considering moving up from a 34 Regulator with 3x300 HP (For sale) to a Convertible. The 42 Viking with IPS is the boat I am most dialed into. This boat will be cruised in the NE and Fished offshore. My question is most brokers have expressed concerns for the IPS boats and I believe Viking is not longer using the Cummings 600 with IPS drives. Plus it seems these boat took a deep depreciation. Can anyone share a real life experience as to why and what am I getting myself into.
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I know what it feels like to find a boat you like in the price range, but has a major flaw, if you would. Right now I am debating purchasing a beautifully restored classic Hatteras 34 with newer gas engines and those were not built with particularly large fuel tanks, only a couple hundred gallons total for twin 454’s. Of course I would prefer diesel, but otherwise the boat is perfect for me & my family. I am debating pro’s & cons daily.

Your case is a little more extreme. While I can probably find a decent mechanic for my gas engines, I would be very heditant to think finding an IPS mechanic would be easy, even
viable as so few were made and seems like nobody wants to install on new builds, so if I were a mechanic I would not want to
invest tje time in $ in getting to know them. Throw in tje fact that tjey are known to be mechanical nightmares, and I see no way how I can justify considering these.

Its very likely you will go from enjoying your 34 Regulator regularly, to being on the hard trying to find tje right guy to fix your pods just as regularly (until they break again).
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I am in the market for something similarly sized and was interested in IPS for joystick docking and sky anchor. The more I researched, I decided to stay away from IPS and go straight shafts.
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They are selling for a significant discount compared to the comparable shaft powered boats (which sold new for less) because they are expensive to fix when the drives fail (notice I said when, not if).
Everybody has their financial pain threshold, and if you can afford the $20k cost of each drive rebuild plus the downtime, it might be a decent enough deal to jump on it - but there is a reason why Viking, Tiara, Cabo/Hatteras among others quickly and quietly stopped using pods on any of their boats.
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don't do it. the 42 viking was discontinued because those geniuses could not stop the pods from leaking at the hull seal.
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I thought IPS was only Volvo and Cummins has Zeus pods?


I would not own a pod boat personally. Worse of all worlds in my opinion and I have been on several.
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I know several experienced boaters who own boats with pod drives (Volvo) -- 2 Sabres and one Palm Beach. They love them, have had no problems with them, performance is terrific, fuel economy is great and they are child's play to dock.

The Cummins-Zuess pod drives have a worse reputation -- each manufacturer blames the other when there are problems -- but they are still pretty good as far as I know. I would not be turned off by pod drives unless the specific boat you are considering was not properly set up for the pod drives.
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There’s another great thread on here about this very same topic. It was just a couple of months ago. The general consensus is no go unless you want a maintenance nightmare and even lower resale.
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There’s another great thread on here about this very same topic. It was just a couple of months ago. The general consensus is no go unless you want a maintenance nightmare and even lower resale.

X2, Seavee used the IPS [NO LONGER] in the 39', can't even give them away.
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I was in this same position before purchasing a large center console.
Honestly, I would love the room a 42' viking has to offer (was looking at the same boat) but after some research and a father inlaw that has pods.. I RAN.
The simplicity of outboards is just too good to go to a boat with all those headaches. Your fun only starts with the pods! You have vacuflushes, AC units, ice makers, water makers, and the list goes on.
Viking did discontinue the 42' but they have a new 44' with straight shafts.
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I was never a fan of the pod craze just seemed to complicated as compared to rudder and shaft setup. I understand the quest for additional speed and the extra room they supply in the cabin but at what cost. Just curious why v-drives never really took off understand no extra speed, a little more complicated but you do gain the extra cabin room.
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some good recent threads with good information, i'd read them.

latest generation volvo ips not as bad as they used to be. annual maintenance is $$$$$
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I have about 100 hrs of time running a 42 Viking with Pods. feel free to pm me.
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I was never a fan of the pod craze just seemed to complicated as compared to rudder and shaft setup. I understand the quest for additional speed and the extra room they supply in the cabin but at what cost. Just curious why v-drives never really took off understand no extra speed, a little more complicated but you do gain the extra cabin room.
I think you can get some extra speed out of them as you can flatten the shaft angle . American Custom Yachts use them on some of their builds and they build some speedy Sporty's .
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For all the knocks about pod drives, keep in mind that many top-flight boat builders like Sabre, Palm Beach, Tiara, Grand Banks, MJM and others continue to either use Pod drives exclusively or as an option. They require a bit more maintenance than straight shaft drives, but they provide much better efficiency -- 10% to 20% -- and improved control. The joystick is great for docking, and the skyhook makes it easy to hang fenders and get docklines ready if you are short-handed. If the engine/pod drive system is designed to be located near the stern, it opens up space in the hull for additional living space. Some builders like Palm Beach use a jackshaft to join a centrally located engine to the pod unit so there is no gain in cabin space.

I've read one thread about the Viking 42 in Hull Truth that had reports from a number of satisfied owners. Part of the problem with the Viking 42 was a high price when it was introduced, and a smallish cockpit. If you can live with the cockpit and buy one at an attractive price on the resale market, I would not be scared away by the pods, even though the Cummins/Zeuss combo has had more issues than the Volvo pod drive system.
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Originally Posted by Schmaltz~Herring View Post
X2, Seavee used the IPS [NO LONGER] in the 39', can't even give them away.
crazy what 39’s are being unloaded for. Seems like it would be a great set-up on that rig, if there were not issues.

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