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Old 05-14-2020, 01:02 PM
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We found a 2006 sea ray 220 sundeck that we like. Its priced at 26,900 (way overpriced imo), has alittle over 400 hours on the motor (kinda on the high side of what we are looking for), overall based on the pics looks to be in very good condition. So I contacted the seller and we talked about it, told him I would talk to my husband and get back with him...... my husband and I decided that we would pay no more than 21,000. I contacted the seller and he said tht he would only go between 24-24k which is still to much for that boat in our opinion. I feel like the offer I made was resonable, but I dont know because im new to this.... its his boat ofc and he can ask what he wants for it but im just curious as to if we really did offer to low for that particular boat??
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Not too familiar with the boat you are looking at and you stated the hours, but not the engine model, electronics, upgrades, stored indoors or in water etc. All these factor into the price. Personally, I won't accept offers over the phone if the seller hasn't come out and looked at what I'm selling. I find it's better to go out, looks at the boat, see how it's been maintained, establish a read on the seller, then make an offer. Just my way of doing business.
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Keep looking... there better boats for the same money. $24 for that boat (14 years old) is too much. Do you plan on fresh or salt water boating?
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Seems steep. But prices are very dependent on local market. It also depends on the power. Does it have the biggest engine they offered or the smallest. Finally, on a boat that age, condition will also be a key factor in price. I would gladly pay $1-2K more for a boat in significantly better condition.
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Originally Posted by lifestarts@forty View Post
Keep looking... there better boats for the same money. $24 for that boat (14 years old) is too much. Do you plan on fresh or salt water boating?

we plan on freshwater primarly but we do have a beach house so we would also take it down there some as well. I feel like 24 is to much as well. The guy told me he still owed in it so im thinking he may be upside down in it somehow....
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Originally Posted by BKC29 View Post
We found a 2006 sea ray 220 sundeck that we like. Its priced at 26,900 (way overpriced imo), has alittle over 400 hours on the motor (kinda on the high side of what we are looking for), overall based on the pics looks to be in very good condition. So I contacted the seller and we talked about it, told him I would talk to my husband and get back with him...... my husband and I decided that we would pay no more than 21,000. I contacted the seller and he said tht he would only go between 24-24k which is still to much for that boat in our opinion. I feel like the offer I made was resonable, but I dont know because im new to this.... its his boat ofc and he can ask what he wants for it but im just curious as to if we really did offer to low for that particular boat??
From what I have seen that is pretty high, unless he has some major options, lots of extra's, or something else to make it better. That age boat should be closer to 20,000 or less unless their is something special about it.
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IMO, a (lowball in seller's opinion) offer over the phone doesn't mean squat if the buyer isn't willing to see the boat in person.
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As indicated a lot of variables to determining a price. Where is the boat? Salt water or freshwater? Maintenance records? Last time manifold and risers were replaced? This is a time in years issue not engine hours. In salt water on a raw water cooled boat, manifold and risers will internally rust just sitting whether you use the boat or not. When was the last time the outdrive was inspected, serviced, aligned, bellows replaced? Condition of Gel coat and upholstery? If having a shiny boat is important to you, having faded gelcoat restored correctly and professionally is not inexpensive. Even if its not important to you, its often important to others and affects the value. Was it stored on a lift, trailer, dry stored, or stored in the water? If stored in the water, run away. You need to see it in person. Hours don't tell the story. Everything on the boat is 14 years old, belts, rubber parts, hoses, wiring, etc. Boats and components age whether the engine is running or not. Pictures don't tell the story. If you don't know what to look for, hire someone that does.
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Check out this link for comparison.............It's only worth what someone is willing to pay!

https://www.boattrader.com/boats/mak...l-220-sundeck/
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Please tell me, if the boat's local, you at least saw the boat before knocking 20% off his ask. Seller will learn that boat's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it. Plenty o' fish in the sea. Happy hunting!
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Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
Please tell me, if the boat's local, you at least saw the boat before knocking 20% off his ask. Seller will learn that boat's only worth what someone's willing to pay for it. Plenty o' fish in the sea. Happy hunting!
nope. The boat is 2 hours one way for us. I told him if it is what he says it is than absolute top dollar for us is 21k bc regardless the boat is an 2007 model. He said 24-25k as low as he could go and I said thanks for your time. On to the next one.
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Originally Posted by Jus Teasin View Post
IMO, a (lowball in seller's opinion) offer over the phone doesn't mean squat if the buyer isn't willing to see the boat in person.
I agree but its two hours one way for us and i dont want to waste a drive if the seller isnt gonna budge much on the price. We plan on buying then if we like the boat and everything checks out. Saves us time and them time imo
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$3000 isnít much in the boating world. You may find itís like new and worth it. If itís the model youíre looking for Iíd go check it out and bring cash.

Heck you knocked off 3 grand with a phone call.

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What is your basis for the 21k for that specific boat? How did you arrive at that number?

Your opinion on what you think it is work and what it is actually worth may not be not the same. If it is still for sale in 3 months, then kick the offer back at him. Are you planning on any kind of survey? What about sea trial?

You are going to have to drive to find the right boat. Hell, I have flown all over the eastern seaboard for one boat or another so 2 hours is nothing.
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What is your basis for the 21k for that specific boat? How did you arrive at that number?

Your opinion on what you think it is work and what it is actually worth may not be not the same. If it is still for sale in 3 months, then kick the offer back at him. Are you planning on any kind of survey? What about sea trial?

You are going to have to drive to find the right boat. Hell, I have flown all over the eastern seaboard for one boat or another so 2 hours is nothing.
hopefully in three months we will have already purchased something. We arnt flying anywhere for a boat especially not for what we are looking for, we will drive up to 4 hours away but thats about it and that depends on if we can agree on a price and buy it in one trip. Which is why I was straight forward on what we will pay for that regardless what he thinks its worth. we intend to use it for weekend fun and thats about it.
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Originally Posted by creditcardguy View Post
$3000 isnít much in the boating world. You may find itís like new and worth it. If itís the model youíre looking for Iíd go check it out and bring cash.

Heck you knocked off 3 grand with a phone call.
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Originally Posted by BKC29 View Post
We found a 2006 sea ray 220 sundeck that we like. Its priced at 26,900 (way overpriced imo), has alittle over 400 hours on the motor (kinda on the high side of what we are looking for), overall based on the pics looks to be in very good condition. So I contacted the seller and we talked about it, told him I would talk to my husband and get back with him...... my husband and I decided that we would pay no more than 21,000. I contacted the seller and he said tht he would only go between 24-24k which is still to much for that boat in our opinion. I feel like the offer I made was resonable, but I dont know because im new to this.... its his boat ofc and he can ask what he wants for it but im just curious as to if we really did offer to low for that particular boat??
I would rather a boat that old with 1000hrs on the motor than 400 or less. I'm not a guide and I travel a lot for work which prevents me from using the boat as often as I'd like and we still put 150+hrs a year on it.

Nothing kills a boat faster than sitting.
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""""" I feel like the offer I made was resonable, but I dont know because im new to this.... its his boat ofc and he can ask what he wants for it"""""

If somebody called me up instead of coming over to look at a boat, then lo-balled me, I'd say goodbye pretty quickly. Especially if the lookie Lou claimed to not know very much about boats. You are NOT a boat buyer yet, sorry. You're just a tire-kicker. Come on, man, you can't even drive 2 hours for a $24,000 purchase?
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""""" I feel like the offer I made was resonable, but I dont know because im new to this.... its his boat ofc and he can ask what he wants for it"""""

If somebody called me up instead of coming over to look at a boat, then lo-balled me, I'd say goodbye pretty quickly. Especially if the lookie Lou claimed to not know very much about boats. You are NOT a boat buyer yet, sorry. You're just a tire-kicker. Come on, man, you can't even drive 2 hours for a $24,000 purchase?

😂😂 first off, I am not a man. I am a women. I never told him I didnt know anything about boats but I do have enough sense to judge a fair price based on the way same year/models are priced for. And Hell no. Im not driving 2 hours to spend 24k on something that isnt worth it to us. If I thought the boat was worth 24k then yes but its not. Atleast not to us. We are paying cash, not financing so I guess we value our money alil more since we actually have it in hand vs basing it off a monthly payment lol
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Contact him back in 3wks to a month he might be more negotiable then
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