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Old 05-06-2020, 01:54 PM
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2004 Hydra-Sports 3300 VX Express w/Triple 225 Yamahas

Sunday, I lost one engine w/Significant damage. The other engines are original, and getting tired. The lower units have already been rebuilt, at least once.

Do I rebuild or repower? Do I replace one engine or three? Yamahas or Mercurys? 250 or 300?

Can I refinance the whole boat? Owe $44k?

My credit union says I need a "Preferred Mortgage" because USCG requires it? The boat is registered in Ohio, but not documented. I never heard of this.

Any help, or suggestions to get me back on the water will be greatly appreciated.
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Pair of 350 Vorados would be nice!
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You currently (or had) 675hp so why not go with a pair of 300's. The reduced weigh may equate to not needing the 75hp you will be dropping.
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You can finance motors separately from the hull I do believe. I would sell the motors you have for what you can get and slap on a pair of 350 Vrods. If you must have trips go with trip 300 V8 Mercs.
If that is not feasible I would look on here for a set or trip set of used Vrods that will still have plenty of warranty remaining. They are all over the place. Either way I would be done with those 225's
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Refinancing may be a challenge due to the age, but I really don't know. You can get financing on new power at decent rates today. That's a heavy boat that could use some oomph. Trip 300's would be sweet and would completely give you the new boat feeling and great economy. But it's real expensive. $75k+ You likely have all mechanical controls and would be replacing all of that. Lot's of good re-power options. I'm not sure if the latest Yamaha V6 uses the same mounting bracket, hydraulics and tie bars. Assuming 28" centers. Something to look at as all that extra rigging, glass work etc adds a bunch to the ticket.

Fixing the old is sure attractive at that price point, but if you are keeping the boat for another 5-7 years, I'd find a way to re-power. I just made the same decision on my boat, picking it up tomorrow, can hardly wait!
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You currently (or had) 675hp so why not go with a pair of 300's. The reduced weigh may equate to not needing the 75hp you will be dropping.
Actually more on the order of 625 HP...the 3.3L deuce and a quarters were girly.

A real consideration with heavy hulls is strain on the lowers. A 350 Vrod on a 26' bay boat lives a different life than a pair of them will see on a 33. That said a pair of 350's would outperform the trip 225's by leaps and bounds.
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Replace/fix the burnt motor and call it a day
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Like others I think a pair of 350's are the ticket for that hull. I'm sure both Mercury and Yamaha offer direct financing on their products. Why don't you go talk to a dealer and see what they can offer you. The resale value of the 2 good engines will be higher if you can move them yourself. You could take that money and pay down the loan on the boat and then refinance it for the lower amount. That might help offset the cost of the financed engines.
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Buy a good used 225 Hang it on there and roll
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Pair of 425s would be nice..
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Faced similar situation on original trip 225 Optis (2001). Thought a long time about going to twin 350s (400s were on market 5 months). Lots of appeal going to twins (less weight, maintenance, COST). My concern was how much harder I would run the engines to get a similar cruise speed. My priorities were economy and longevity. Your boat's weight is probably similar to mine (12,500 w/engines, 50% fuel). Had a friend at my marina with a 346 Cuddy who re-powered with twin 300 Zukes. Cruises at 35 mph, 4800 rpm, getting 1.3 MPG w/ 4 blade props. I cruise at 40 mph, 4200 rpm, get 1.25 mpg w/ 3 blade 14x21.5 Watergrips. My hull's sweet spot is 38+. I can also plane on 2 engines. Maybe I'm old school but to me running 4 strokes at 5K rpm all the time seems like too much wear/tear. I've had new power for 5 months so still on the honeymoon but satisfied with my choice. If money is no object it is really just personal preference. Or just slap a pair of Merc 450's and tally-ho!
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Originally Posted by Capt. Ted View Post
2004 Hydra-Sports 3300 VX Express w/Triple 225 Yamahas

Sunday, I lost one engine w/Significant damage. The other engines are original, and getting tired. The lower units have already been rebuilt, at least once.

Do I rebuild or repower? Do I replace one engine or three? Yamahas or Mercurys? 250 or 300?

Can I refinance the whole boat? Owe $44k?

My credit union says I need a "Preferred Mortgage" because USCG requires it? The boat is registered in Ohio, but not documented. I never heard of this.

Any help, or suggestions to get me back on the water will be greatly appreciated.
You got 2 to get home when you loose one. I bet you could find a decent running 400-800 hour F225 with the midsection done for $3000 or less and be back to triple reliability or you can spend $50K+. If money was no issue, I’d say hang new but seeing as your concerned with financing, and a new to you F225 would bolt on in a couple of hours, seems like a no brainer to me, used and keep the blown engine as a parts donor......

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Which engine blew up??? And what blew up ???

Could you still do a counter rotating pair, even if you had to swap lower unit to make the pair depending which engine blew up...or sell as 225 regular rotation singles...how many hours on the other 2
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my advice is replace bad and deal with others as needed. no fancy finances and you know what you got. if you decide to sell later you base price vs sale will be in your favor
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The Hydrasport 33 is a big heavy boat that is happiest with trips. I think trip 300s would turn it into a new and fun boat.
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In these uncertain times i look for a used F225 and just clap it on the back bud.You will have an engine for spares and a wad in the bank.
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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post
You got 2 to get home when you loose one. I bet you could find a decent running 400-800 hour F225 with the midsection done for $3000 or less and be back to triple reliability or you can spend $50K+. If money was no issue, I’d say hang new but seeing as your concerned with financing, and a new to you F225 would bolt on in a couple of hours, seems like a no brainer to me, used and keep the blown engine as a parts donor......
I was going to suggest two new Mercury V8 300's but I think Mpellet nailed it. Great advise for all the reasons MP stated.
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Given what’s going on in the world, I’d replace or fix the dead one and start planning to repower altogether in a year or two. Side benefit is your loan balance will be smaller, or maybe you could pay it off.
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I really feel under powered at 675. That's why I bought one with triples.
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I'm with you on the repower now. Trying to figure out how to get triple 300's. There would be much less rigging costs if I stay with Yamahas. Although I dream of the Verados.

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