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I have a friend with a Bertram convertible that is infested with termites. The owner added some bamboo flooring and walls over the original wood decking in the salon and formica walls. The termites are throughout the bamboo and into the engine covers on the salon floor. We've gotten the Bamboo out of the salon and I've sprayed with Timbor to kill the bugs that we can see. I don't see any evidence the bugs have gotten into stringers nor the original bertram wood except for the areas mentioned above. However, I haven't done a complete inspection of the boat.

The boat has not been used for 7 or 8 years and is in pretty bad condition. The engines (Cummins 903s) crank pretty easily but I have not run the engines other than idle and the transmissions will shift into and out of gear as I wanted to have the fuel tested and change the filters. I realize the boat is never going to be a cruising boat but I do have an idea for an intended use. My question is what is the chances of the termites having infested the stringers and structural portions of the boat. Is this boat salvageable???
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Try terminix
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My brother in law had an old Willy Roberts. He named it the Termite.
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Read this. entertaining.
Drywood Termite Infestation: There will be termite blood.... (and hopefully no fire)
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great read. Not much way to get the temps of this boat up to 140F even if its in Florida so I'm going to have to go the chemical route which off course if my preferred method.
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goodbye termites

termiticide (sp?). Heater may work too careful not to burn boat down leaving unattended.
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one of my all time favorite THT threads
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Originally Posted by Ironworker View Post
I have a friend with a Bertram convertible that is infested with termites. The owner added some bamboo flooring and walls over the original wood decking in the salon and formica walls. The termites are throughout the bamboo and into the engine covers on the salon floor. We've gotten the Bamboo out of the salon and I've sprayed with Timbor to kill the bugs that we can see. I don't see any evidence the bugs have gotten into stringers nor the original bertram wood except for the areas mentioned above. However, I haven't done a complete inspection of the boat.

The boat has not been used for 7 or 8 years and is in pretty bad condition. The engines (Cummins 903s) crank pretty easily but I have not run the engines other than idle and the transmissions will shift into and out of gear as I wanted to have the fuel tested and change the filters. I realize the boat is never going to be a cruising boat but I do have an idea for an intended use. My question is what is the chances of the termites having infested the stringers and structural portions of the boat. Is this boat salvageable???
Probably all over boat. Termidor is what the pros use - I got it on the www for about $50. I think the best way is to tent and gas it but that’s kind of pricy.
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Originally Posted by Tiger51 View Post
Probably all over boat. Termidor is what the pros use - I got it on the www for about $50. I think the best way is to tent and gas it but that’s kind of pricy.
My guess as well. It will be war with the termites.
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The biggest seller of termicides in the U.S. is BUGSPRAY.COM. They're a retail store in Atlanta owned by an ex pest control man. He sells the really good pesticides and animal traps. His online tutorials tell you how to get rid of 150+ pest, including termites.

Don't worry too much as termites are very slow eaters and they follow the smell of formaldehyde.. They also have to come out thru dirt tunnels to get water daily. And termites are much easier to deal with vs. carpenter ants which are voracious eaters of diseased wood.
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Originally Posted by Bamaman View Post
Don't worry too much as termites are very slow eaters and they follow the smell of formaldehyde.. They also have to come out thru dirt tunnels to get water daily. And termites are much easier to deal with vs. carpenter ants which are voracious eaters of diseased wood.
Although Carpenter Ants build nests inside wood, they do not eat it. There's a product called Advance, that was only available to licensed pro's but later became available over the net to all. The ants will typically consume meat based food but sometimes they will abruptly stop & change to plant based. The product comes in both and I found it 100% effective with just a couple days at most of use. Termites on the other hand can be extremely challenging usually requiring repeated treatments that can go on for years unless you opt for a tenting, which has 0 resadule effect so in short time they may come back. There's a saying here in Florida; "there are homes that have Termites and there are homes that will have them."
That said, when my Bertram had termites they were only in a very small area below the teak salon entrance step and after probably a dozen or so treatments over a couple weeks haven't seen evidence of them in many years. Had they been all over I would have opted for tenting as buddy did with his boat.
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From your post my guess is she’ll end up your freighter loaded down doing 8kts. A buddy and me had the same idea with an old 53 hatteras. I’d gut it, tent it, then putt till the old Cummins crap out.
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You are asking 'us' to provide opinions without any visuals of the boat or its structure. . . .

What are the chances that the termites are infested into the structure of the boat? I'd say somewhere between a 50 - 100% chance . . . but you are just going to have to look for yourself.
Is the boat salvageable? . . . depends on what you find when you look through the boat's structure . . . and your willingness/ability to deal with the issues.

Do you have any lighter fluid and a match?
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Originally Posted by tpenfield View Post
You are asking 'us' to provide opinions without any visuals of the boat or its structure. . . .

What are the chances that the termites are infested into the structure of the boat? I'd say somewhere between a 50 - 100% chance . . . but you are just going to have to look for yourself.
Is the boat salvageable? . . . depends on what you find when you look through the boat's structure . . . and your willingness/ability to deal with the issues.

Do you have any lighter fluid and a match?
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Old Bertrams had very stout glass over structural wood like stringers and these may very well be good . Decks and topsides not so much.
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My bug guy treats the boats with Termidor quarterly as part of our program. I had some carpenter ants and they went away in a hot minute.
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Old Bertrams had very stout glass over structural wood like stringers and these may very well be good . Decks and topsides not so much.
This is my hope that the glass kept them out of the stringers.
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Originally Posted by Conchyjodyoos View Post
From your post my guess is she’ll end up your freighter loaded down doing 8kts. A buddy and me had the same idea with an old 53 hatteras. I’d gut it, tent it, then putt till the old Cummins crap out.
Actually, I'm looking for a boat to be my mobile Southern Command Center in the Bahamas. I'd like to fish some of the more remote islands and my plan is to dock a boat (to stay on) with a ratted out CC (fish from) then fly down, when I wanted to fish. I'll relocate the boat one or twice a year depending on the fishing.
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