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Old 04-27-2020, 02:01 PM
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Default Seadek? Ocean Grip? any better alternative?

Had Ocean Grip installed some time ago in the whole boat, but now is coming out and need to replace.

Is Seadek better? any other better alternative to those 2?
Old 04-27-2020, 02:57 PM
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Check out DekIt. I have it on my boat. I have had SeaDek on my boat as well. My personal opinion is that they are of equal comparison. Freeman uses Dekit on all of their boats. I chose Dekit due to availability in my area over SeaDek this time around.
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Look at AquaTraction, they advertise a closer cell foam that is allegedly more durable and stains less and/or is easier to clean because less porous then the others. Get a sample I guess. I've never seen it in person.
Old 04-27-2020, 03:33 PM
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If you are looking for something durable, look at a harder synthetic alternative called PlasDek
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My OceanGrip came COMPLETELY un-glued so I'm glad to see other options available...
The good: I guess I can use the old pieces as templates
The bad: to have to remove the old leftovers of the adhesive... RPIA
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I have aqua traction and it is nice. Had it for 1 1/2 years easy to clean and still looks new.
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I’ve been looking at synthetic teak looking decking for my boat as well. Flexiteak, plasdeck, isiteak , and the like seem like a longer lasting alternative although you have to consider the high cost and they can get hot. My issue with EVA is doesn’t look or feel like it will last as long as the plastic stuff which wouldn’t be a problem for me except it’s not cheap and it looks like it would be tough to get it all off to replace.

The flexiteak guy came it to me and quoted my boat and also quoted another interesting option of Marine Mat snap in.

flexiteak $75/sq foot installed
marine mat snap in $53/sq foot installed
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The synthetic teak products get very hot. They will last a pretty long time but next to impossible to get up. It will literally pull get coat up with it in places. I just redid a viking that had it. A lot of it comes down to the people doing the work. Seadek has been around a long time and is on a ton of oem boats. They do a ton of accelerated testing against the competition to ensure they stay on top.
You can get a trash seadek job if the installer sucks. As with most products if not done properly it won't last. I sell seadek for a reason as I feel overall its the best product. What area are you in?
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I got some samples of aquatraction. I like the idea, i wrote on it with a sharpie and let it dry, Scrubbed off easily. But it was really firm, maybe just the small squares. The whole point for me is a pretty, but comfortable deck. I need to see it on a real application.
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Originally Posted by Castawaychris View Post
The synthetic teak products get very hot. They will last a pretty long time but next to impossible to get up. It will literally pull get coat up with it in places. I just redid a viking that had it. A lot of it comes down to the people doing the work. Seadek has been around a long time and is on a ton of oem boats. They do a ton of accelerated testing against the competition to ensure they stay on top.
You can get a trash seadek job if the installer sucks. As with most products if not done properly it won't last. I sell seadek for a reason as I feel overall its the best product. What area are you in?
I use the boat primarily (weekend on-weekend off, from June to December. When the boat is out of the water is covered. How long is supposed to last?
I'm not talking about the reflection burns, I'm talking about the material simply coming off....

Although I have my suspicions, I can't say if the adhesive failed, or the install was incorrect in my case, I only know that all the panels are basically coming off.
The manufacturer would blame installer, the installer would blame the manufacturer.
I was not entirely happy with the response from the manufacturer.
At the end, I was not happy with the installer response either. I will not say their name, but they know who they are.
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Seadek has a 3 year adhesion warranty. Seadek has been very good lately on the warranty at least with us. You should get 5 to 7 years put of it with descent care. Send me some info and if its inside of 3 years I'll see if there's anything I can do to help.
if the installer did a crop job seadek my deny the warranty but then you start rattling cages at seadek for an installer doing a crap job. If the adhesive fails in 3 years I replace it no questions ask weather sedeak covers it or not (they always do). Some smaller companies or installers can't ( or wont) eat a 2 or 3k job, I would if I had to my reputation is worth more.
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Originally Posted by Castawaychris View Post
Seadek has a 3 year adhesion warranty. Seadek has been very good lately on the warranty at least with us. You should get 5 to 7 years put of it with descent care. Send me some info and if its inside of 3 years I'll see if there's anything I can do to help.
if the installer did a crop job seadek my deny the warranty but then you start rattling cages at seadek for an installer doing a crap job. If the adhesive fails in 3 years I replace it no questions ask weather sedeak covers it or not (they always do). Some smaller companies or installers can't ( or wont) eat a 2 or 3k job, I would if I had to my reputation is worth more.
I’ve worked with castaway customs before and they are top notch and the only seadek installer is ever let touch my boat.
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I'm looking at this type of flooring for our 26 ft Larson. How well do the products hold up to dog traffic? We have a small Pekingese & a Lab. I realize that they're not totally indestructible, but are there brands that hold up better than others? Many Thanks!

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Originally Posted by 76 Mako 23 View Post
I’ve worked with castaway customs before and they are top notch and the only seadek installer is ever let touch my boat.
That right there is why you can't believe everything read about this or that. Out of every 10 posts that say (insert name) product failed or is dog shit...how many are due to poor installations? I bet it's most of them. Get a reputable installer for whatever you choose and it will last and perform the way it's supposed to. Easier said than done. if you are fortunate enough to live or boat near areas where castaway works, your good to go. if you don't, you may have to settle for the only guy who does it in your area which doesn't mean hes any good at it.

The same holds true for anything you have installed whether its boat flooring or a hot water heater. Bad installs can ruin them all.
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The only product that has been around more than a few years is SeaDek. Other competing products may be as good or better but it will take a few more years to know. Anything other than SeaDek and you are taking a gamble - at least most competing products are discounted to offset this risk/gamble. My guess is that all of the “top tier” decking products are using the same 3m adhesive on their products but that does not necessarily make them all the same - adhesion failures i have seen are almost always the adhesive letting go of the product not if the fiberglass deck. Every decking manufacturer has a different EVA formulation that could react differently over time with the 3m adhesive and of course on the top side with UV/wear/dirt, etc.
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I’ve used both and sea deck seems to hold up best
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Originally Posted by sammythetuna View Post
I’ve used both and sea deck seems to hold up best
I've used SeaDeck extensively in the past, but since switching to Gatorstep there is no comparison. Gatorstep has way better adhesion, no shrinkage, and is a better quality foam. Gatorstep.com
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Originally Posted by ziess21 View Post
I've used SeaDeck extensively in the past, but since switching to Gatorstep there is no comparison. Gatorstep has way better adhesion, no shrinkage, and is a better quality foam. Gatorstep.com
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