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Old 04-14-2020, 03:33 AM
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Default Would you buy a boat with a Ficht or HPDI engine?

I am in the market for a used boat and have begun to notice quite a few boats with the engines listed above. I am sure we all have heard stories or have personal experiences that may influence your opinions of those engines. I have owned Yamaha, Johnson and Mercury brand engines on previous boats, and have no particular choice. If it were your hard earned dollars making the purchase, would those engines veto the deal for you. With the current and probable market conditions I am sure more inventory will come available and good buys may be had, these engines are giving me second thoughts. Strangely enough I would consider buying an ETEC. Your opinions.
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not me. I owned 2 hpdis in the past too. The 250 and 300 were the problem children. not awful with the 200's but was more little things that i would care to go through again.

Both should get you a hefty discount to the value of the boat. But then you have that issue too going forward.
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I’ve owned two of the earlier fitch / etec motors. A 225 rude ram , and a 115 ( I think) etec. Had issues with both, but to tell you the truth, most outboards of that day were crap compared to the newer motors now. I was in the boat rental business and have had almost every brand. If I were going to get an older motor it would be a Yamaha 4 stroke( but excluding the 100/115’s) but if you find the right deal with an etec just put the hood and see how well it was taken care of.... used motors are always a chance.
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Ficht not a chance. Hpdi 200 only , the 250 and 300 for me not a chance either .
also getting service on a Ficht would be an issue these days I would think
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Bought a boat with a Ficht. I will say this, pay for the hull and trailer and count on a repower. I had nothing but trouble with it and just repowered because it lost #6 cylinder.
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HPDI? Yes. Ficht? No.
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Newer etec yes all others no way although I had very good luck with a 200 Opti
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Had two HPDI"s, 150 and 225. Good running motors if you keep up with the maint., especially the VST filter. Pay attention to O rings also. Repowered a new to me bay boat with a 150 Merc four stroke and am loving life.
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I went against the THT grain and bought a Robalo with a 250 HPDI in ~2010. It had a new powerhead from ~2007. I followed 3 rules: good oil, clean fuel, ring free. I took this single engine 250 HPDI to the Bahamas several times. Then I got complacent with the ring free and only did it here and there. One of the cylinders seized up and the repair was going to be $3k..... that's when I repowered.

Would I buy another one? No. Not unless I knew for a stone cold fact that the prior owner used ring free and quality oil and never ethanol. Also simply because of age. The HPDI's that are out there are 10 years older than when I rolled the dice. I would strongly consider an ETEC if I was bargain hunting. HPDI's are just too risky unless you factor the deal as "hull only" and try to squeeze a few good years out of them. Which would mean a heavy dose of ring free at the start
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Ficht-NO
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I had a 2000 Evin Ficht (200 HP) and I ran it for 12 yrs with minimal problems. There are a some that turned out better than others. In addition, they were on there way to fixing the issues when they went bankrupt in 2001. My understanding is the the 200 HP were some of the better ones.
My take in general is that anything prior to BRP running them (2003) is very high risk. (I am not sure when BRP dropped the Ficht name.) So there may be 2003, 2004 "Fichts" by BRP, these are ;likely better.
Also any much newer motor would be much better.
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I don't know anything about the Evinrude product, but the 150 & 200 HPDIs are very good provided they have been consistently run, meticulously maintained and pass a thorough presale examination. I believe the last year the 200 hp HPDI was manufactured was 2012. Given that the vast majority of those engines are 10 years or older, I would ask about whether the fuel injectors and high-pressure pump have been serviced. There are several videos on the net about how to evaluate a used outboard motor – compression check, lower unit inspection, trim and tilt and hydraulic steering if so equipped. I think it would be worthwhile to hire a mechanic very familiar with the HPDI line to do the examination. If there are problems with that engine, you can spend $1000+ very quickly and spending 300 or $400 on a presale examination is worthwhile in my opinion.
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Ficht- no. HPDI- yes. Im on my third. Twin 150s on the last boat, single 250 on current boat. As mentioned before, clean fuel, clean fuel, clean fuel, and synthetic oil. Did I mention clean fuel? lol HPDIs are great motors if you keep up on maintenance
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HPDI Yes Ficht Nope I have sworn off all Evinrudes for Life
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Never a Ficht. Had twins and was the worst boating season ever...
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If I liked the boat enough to repower it and it was priced on the assumption that the engines have zero value, then yes.
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No matter what, a Ficht/HPDI is going to be an "old" motor in terms of outboard technology. Given that they were not very good when brand new should tell you everything you need to know.
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HPDI 150/200 ? Yes.

HPDI 300 ? Only with a significant discount and verification all the recalls had been done.

HPDI 250 / Fight ? Not unless the engine was 'free'.
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No and No
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I don't blame you for considering a Etec. I've never owned a HPDI or a Fitch so I can't comment on them. But I bought a boat with twin 225HP Etec thinking if I decided to repower I would go with Suzuki. I've had good luck with Suzuki's and so have my friends. I really like the Etec better and will strongly look at them if and when I decide to repower.
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