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Old 03-27-2020, 05:59 AM
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I got invited by a friend out on one of his friend's boats yesterday. Thus, I had never met the boat owner before, but great guy and we all had a great time.

While aboard, I noticed a fuel/oil smell right away and then noticed that the boat could barely get on plane. So I casually looked at the ventilation plate height while we were running and then checked on the type of prop. The bottom was not fouled, but still, the boat was extremely sluggish...and then that oil/fuel smell and sheen on the water.

I'm afraid he is over-propped and making oil.

I didn't want to come off as a know-it-all, but I would really like to help and maybe save him from destroying his motor. Should I say something?
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Tell your friend, let him convey the message if he so chooses.
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"If it was me, I would"


is the way I start these conversations

Maybe send him a link to similar advise
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Thanks, guys!
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As a boater I would want to know and would welcome the info....We boaters need to stick together!
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If it was me, I would want to know if there was something wrong on my boat. You are obviously a very conscientious and tactful guy. You got this!
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If it was me, I would have stayed 6 feet away from anyone I didn't know lol

But seriously, how loaded was the boat? What year boat/motor combo? What was the make/model of both?
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Originally Posted by briclark904 View Post
If it was me, I would have stayed 6 feet away from anyone I didn't know lol
but I doubt that applies to you.
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Based on the way you made your statement in this thread, I'm quite sure you can deliver a non-invasive helpful comment to the boat owner. Might just earn yourself free boat rides for life! At the least I would make sure to ask him if he subscribes to a towing service.
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Tell your buddy and say give him my phone number if he wants to chat about it.
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I have noticed motors too deep on a few boats I have rode on in the past. The first owner dismissed it since the dealer set the boat up, the second one took my observation and researched it. He raised his motor two holes and let me know how much it improved the boat handling and planing. Even if they dont accept your advice does not mean you are no longer welcome and I believe any help is appreciated by most boaters.
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keep your mouth shut, not worth it

next thing you know in one month the guy blows his motor and he blames you

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What boat? What motor? If it was a two stroke, they dont make oil.
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Originally Posted by Raybo Marine NY View Post
keep your mouth shut, not worth it

next thing you know in one month the guy blows his motor and he blames you
Lesson that keeps on giving, "No good deed goes unpunished", people get insulted when you try to assist them, like the times I tried to help people dock at the marina, they were totally clueless on docking that new CV or other boat. Response was " I know what I'm doing", ok go screw your boat up, I know a good glass guy. Lesson 23a, Never volunteer. Followed by lesson 24, Don't loan money to friends or relatives.
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Originally Posted by barrell View Post
What boat? What motor? If it was a two stroke, they dont make oil.
Yes, they consume oil!
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Good stuff, guys. I'm all set here. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Raybo Marine NY View Post
keep your mouth shut, not worth it

next thing you know in one month the guy blows his motor and he blames you
Ha--like giving a friend marriage advice!
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Given that he invited you on his boat and you spent the day with him, he was a great time and he was a great guy, I am not sure i would still classify him as a stranger. A new acquaintance at least, maybe even new friend. Best way to test that out would be to share your "observations" and see how they are received.
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Its very difficult to know how people will receive advise. I might try saying something like Hey I noticed that your engines are making oil, did you see that. If that starts a conversation and he asks what you think then you can make suggestions, otherwise let it go there and maybe he will investigate on his own.
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Why would you not say something? Obviously there is a tactful way of making a suggestion and then the know-it-all approach. I am certain he would be thrilled if you could impart your knowledge and get his boat to run better! And quite frankly if he objected than that would indicate to me that this is a guy I don't want to be around.

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