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Old 03-24-2020, 07:52 AM
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I'm looking to buy my first new (to me) boat. I see many of your posts involve larger, more expensive "sea-worthy" boats so I hope this post is worth everybody's time.

I'm interested in finding either a pontoon or deckboat for around 8k to take out on Wisconsin lakes for some cruising, trolling, pulling a tube maybe, and anchoring/floating. I'm leaning towards a deckboat only because it appears to be slightly smaller once on the trailer and maybe easier to tow and store. Unfortunately, used deckboats in my area are far and few between. Looking to keep the initial investment fairly low for the first boat in case we run into a situation where we just don't get out on the water as much as I think we will, and then upgrade to a better boat in the future.

The boat below is listed at $3500 and is a 1996 Hurricane deckboat. I do realize that at that price point, I get what I pay for and it's not going to be the greatest boat in the world. The only disclosed issues are a bad stator (which the seller will replace before purchasing) and the seat conditions. The front seats are pretty worn, for my purposes probably have another few years but I've looked up the cost to replace all of the seats and carpet and it would be about 2k, putting the total cost of the boat at $5500. Does it look like a decent starter boat or am I out of my mind/asking for trouble and should continue to save up for a better boat?

One other question, I've read that pontoons will be more stable in wind/waves than deckboats due to the pontoon vs. v-hull setup, however, in those articles the pictures shown looked more like smaller bayliner-type boats. Should I expect significantly more rocking with the pictured deckboat vs a pontoon?

Thanks in advance for any comments and suggestions!
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FYI, working on uploading pictures...getting error I cannot post a link until I have 10 posts.
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Originally Posted by mattm29 View Post
Good Morning,
One other question, I've read that pontoons will be more stable in wind/waves than deckboats due to the pontoon vs. v-hull setup, however, in those articles the pictures shown looked more like smaller bayliner-type boats. Should I expect significantly more rocking with the pictured deckboat vs a pontoon?

Thanks in advance for any comments and suggestions!
FWIW I have a 20' 2000 Hurricane fundeck boat and use it in the intercoastal waterways and sometimes on the open ocean on calm days . this is my first deck boat and the one thing I do love about it is the stability of it compared to my previous v hulls. I'm not familiar with those lakes or how they compare to the open ocean but I have no issues with stability. Have you seen other deck boats where you boat at.

I was looking at a pontoon originally but decided on the deck boat for easier maintenance in the salt water..
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I've spent quite a bit of time on both style boats. I don't think one is appreciably better than the other (stability wise) in wind and waves. I might give the slight edge to the deck boat, as I feel ours handled better than the pontoon we used to have. It is a little more confidence inspiring.
But the pontoon had a little more freeboard and it took more to put water on the deck. So if there's an advantage there, it isn't even that clear-cut to me.

As for the rest, if the motor is in good shape and runs well 3.5k is probably a decent price. If not, it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
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Originally Posted by alfnator View Post
FWIW I have a 20' 2000 Hurricane fundeck boat and use it in the intercoastal waterways and sometimes on the open ocean on calm days . this is my first deck boat and the one thing I do love about it is the stability of it compared to my previous v hulls. I'm not familiar with those lakes or how they compare to the open ocean but I have no issues with stability. Have you seen other deck boats where you boat at.

I was looking at a pontoon originally but decided on the deck boat for easier maintenance in the salt water..
Good to know, even though it has a v-hull it appears to be a pretty wide hull, much wider than a fishing boat (once I get to 10 posts I can add photos). In regards to our lakes, they would be much calmer than intercoastal or open ocean...typically 100-500 acres, some larger 3000ish acre ones around. My friend actually has a similar deckboat. I've been out with him a couple times and didn't notice any instability (which is a good thing) but couldn't quite remember the weather condition at the time.

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Originally Posted by MDMako25 View Post
I've spent quite a bit of time on both style boats. I don't think one is appreciably better than the other (stability wise) in wind and waves. I might give the slight edge to the deck boat, as I feel ours handled better than the pontoon we used to have. It is a little more confidence inspiring.
But the pontoon had a little more freeboard and it took more to put water on the deck. So if there's an advantage there, it isn't even that clear-cut to me.

As for the rest, if the motor is in good shape and runs well 3.5k is probably a decent price. If not, it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
Good to know, I don't see us going out in crazy conditions so putting water on the deck shouldn't be much of a problem. The boat really looks like a pontoon on the top and v-hull on the bottom (again, once I get to 10 posts I can add pictures).

Seller claims the motor runs well but will definitely inspect. If nothing else, I already have some trust in the seller since he disclosed the stator problem and will be replacing prior to selling. I had a friend do some research on the motor and says it's pretty reliable too.

Thanks for the response!
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Originally Posted by mattm29 View Post
Good to know, even though it has a v-hull it appears to be a pretty wide hull, much wider than a fishing boat (once I get to 10 posts I can add photos). In regards to our lakes, they would be much calmer than intercoastal or open ocean...typically 100-500 acres, some larger 3000ish acre ones around. My friend actually has a similar deckboat. I've been out with him a couple times and didn't notice any instability (which is a good thing) but couldn't quite remember the weather condition at the time.

Thanks for the response!
Whats the size of the boat you are looking at what size your friend has? Mine is 20' and I cant imagine stability issues in such a lake.

Also what size engine?

I have a 115 on it and with 5-7 people on it is no issue to get on plane and hit 30 Mph. 10 people like I had this weekend it did struggle some to get on plane but still hit 30 mph. Looking back I probably should have switched the heavier peeps from the back to the front , lol.
also it fits 10 people pretty comfy
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Pontoons - Designed for lakes and calmer waters for large parties. With a (2) log set up, max speed is under 35 on almost all of them. They provide A LOT of room and comfort. Adding lifting strakes and third logs gets them to speeds the structure can't support for very long is an afterthought for speed. EVERYTHING is aluminum connected to aluminum and wood.

Strait Decks - Designed for the same waters but come with natural speed due to the fiberglass hull. They provide less room than a pontoon size to size, but are designed to run faster.

Hybrid Decks - IE - FUNDECK by Hurricane - Best of both worlds. You get the room and comfort of a pontoon, with the speed of a strait deck hull.

Not to mention - Decks have a stronger resale value. A used pontoon w/ 3 logs that has been pushed to it's limits for 5 years is a BAD buy and the market reflects it. (At least down in S. Florida.)
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Originally Posted by alfnator View Post
Whats the size of the boat you are looking at what size your friend has? Mine is 20' and I cant imagine stability issues in such a lake.

Also what size engine?

I have a 115 on it and with 5-7 people on it is no issue to get on plane and hit 30 Mph. 10 people like I had this weekend it did struggle some to get on plane but still hit 30 mph. Looking back I probably should have switched the heavier peeps from the back to the front , lol.
also it fits 10 people pretty comfy
Listing says it's an 18' boat but when I try to look it up on Nada Guides the smallest shown is 20'. Not exactly sure but my friends boat is in similar size.

The motor is a Mercury Black Max 150 V6.
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To add something here, do not buy this unless he replaces the stator AND you crank it up and verify that the battery is charging while it runs. Otherwise it could turn into a big headache.
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Originally Posted by alfnator View Post
I have a 115 on it and with 5-7 people on it is no issue to get on plane and hit 30 Mph. 10 people like I had this weekend it did struggle some to get on plane but still hit 30 mph. Looking back I probably should have switched the heavier peeps from the back to the front , lol.
also it fits 10 people pretty comfy
Sorry to hijack the thread, but it sounds like you're part of the problem and not the solution for dealing with Covid-19 - 10 people on a 20 ft boat? We're on full lock down and have about a third of the cases FL has
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pontoon for comfort and easier maintenance deck boat for performance and easier to tow .Even though the pontoon will be lighter they sit higher on a trailer its like towing a camper .
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Originally Posted by AverageJoe View Post
Pontoons - Designed for lakes and calmer waters for large parties. With a (2) log set up, max speed is under 35 on almost all of them. They provide A LOT of room and comfort. Adding lifting strakes and third logs gets them to speeds the structure can't support for very long is an afterthought for speed. EVERYTHING is aluminum connected to aluminum and wood.

Strait Decks - Designed for the same waters but come with natural speed due to the fiberglass hull. They provide less room than a pontoon size to size, but are designed to run faster.

Hybrid Decks - IE - FUNDECK by Hurricane - Best of both worlds. You get the room and comfort of a pontoon, with the speed of a strait deck hull.

Not to mention - Decks have a stronger resale value. A used pontoon w/ 3 logs that has been pushed to it's limits for 5 years is a BAD buy and the market reflects it. (At least down in S. Florida.)
Thank you, great summary. I'm leaning towards the hybrid deck which is why at this point I think I'd prefer the deckboat. I'd like enough space for a person or two to comfortable walk around the deck but also have a bit of speed.
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pontoon for comfort and easier maintenance deck boat for performance and easier to tow .Even though the pontoon will be lighter they sit higher on a trailer its like towing a camper .
Makes sense, I've never actually towed anything so the fact that pontoons sit higher on the trailer makes me lean towards the deckboat. I'm confident I'd learn how to tow, but if I can start easy I'd go that way.
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To add something here, do not buy this unless he replaces the stator AND you crank it up and verify that the battery is charging while it runs. Otherwise it could turn into a big headache.
There's a few boat shops in the area that I'm currently looking to see if they provide some sort of used pre-purchase inspection. For a $3500 boat, I'm not going to spend a ton on an inspection but would at least hopefully uncover some major issues.
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Originally Posted by Pelagic295 View Post
Sorry to hijack the thread, but it sounds like you're part of the problem and not the solution for dealing with Covid-19 - 10 people on a 20 ft boat? We're on full lock down and have about a third of the cases FL has
Great contribution to the thread. OP is simply researching the possibility of a purchase and you come in with that?
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And to the OP - a good summary was provided in post #8. The only negatives you should expect out of the hybrid designs (i.e. Hurricane Fundeck) compared to the newer deck boat designs (i.e. Hurricane Sundeck) is less comfort in the ride due to a flatter hull bottom and less protection/more spray due to the lower hull side. For lake applications, should be no concern. And enjoy some time on the water!
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And to the OP - a good summary was provided in post #8. The only negatives you should expect out of the hybrid designs (i.e. Hurricane Fundeck) compared to the newer deck boat designs (i.e. Hurricane Sundeck) is less comfort in the ride due to a flatter hull bottom and less protection/more spray due to the lower hull side. For lake applications, should be no concern. And enjoy some time on the water!
As for your first post, I didn't want to be too rude or let them hijack but thanks for saying what I was thinking.

I'm almost to 10 posts so I'll soon be able to post pictures of the boat tomorrow. It really is basically a slightly smaller pontoon deck on top and more of a v-hull on the bottom. I'm still collecting pros/cons of each but this is my ideal siutation. I prefer the layout of a pontoon but the hull of a deckboat for towing purposes.

Thanks for the input!
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Thanks all for the advice so far. After this, I have one more post to make it to 10 then I can finally post the photos of the boat.
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The lake I boat on gets rather rough, especially on the weekends. My buddy has a 20' Hurricane with a 150 Yamaha and can do around 40, however it is back breaking. With a few people on the boat and some speed, it's a hard ride and I feel like you are getting slammed. I boat on the same lake with my (now sold) 23' Pontoon with a 115 Merc. I didn't have any lifting strakes so top speed was usually in the high 20s, but the ride was much smoother. It's essentially a floating living room. It's a great boat to entertain on, relax, fish, etc. If we had a group of people going out, most people would choose my boat over my friends. You could pull a tube, though the deck boat would be better for that and offer a sportier ride. I don't have any experience towing either boat on a trailer.

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