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New Bertram 42 1981 Owner in Kenya!

Old 03-19-2020, 09:14 AM
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Hey Boaters!

Im a new member and want to say I'm enjoying the discussions here. I have a few questions my self?

I recently bought a Bertram 42 1981 here in Kenya. It is powered by Detroit GM 6-71 TI 6V92TI engines. It has a Allison M2:1 reduction gear.
The boat is old and needs a lot of work to be done on it. We don't have very good boat yards here in Kenya where they can do excellent work like they do in most developed countries from what I can read on these forums so basically I need to do everything my self and find people to assist.

Unfortunately for me the boat did not come with any manuals and no one is around that seems to share enough information on this boat as its been lying in the dock for 20 odd years.

If someone could share a little information to me about the engines, gearbox and the boat itself I would really appreciate. I am totally new to the big boat club. I own a little 22 foot Bertram with 70HP Yamahas which I use for fishing.

I would appreciate if someone can guide me to good dealers who know about
  • Detroit engines
  • Aliisons gearboxes
  • Onboard generators
  • Electricals that associate with this boat eg Fuse Box, Wiring, Dash Board Guages
  • Marine toilets
  • Marine fridges
  • anything else that you feel I have missed out on?
Is it also possible for a technician to fly out from USA to Kenya to work on this boat and if so how long would a basic restoration project take?
Ideally if the technician would fly out come and assess the boat make a list of items needed fly back source and ship them and come back and complete the job how long would it take and what should their costs be eg daily labour charge

For now I want the basics like get it started and running and moving. This boat has just been literally floating in the water for 20 years and no work has been done on it.

Thanks for taking the time out to read this. I would really appreciate the help.

My email is adil.mirza@hotmail.co.uk and my contacts are +254 797 555 555

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cant help on your questions but would love to see some pics
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Are they 6-71s or 6v92s?
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One of my fav boats of all time. Definitely worth redoing. Post pics and we can help you out. How did it get to Kenya?
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those are awesome boats and you definatly picked the righ boat to restore . I cant help with mechanicles but you started with right hull . there not speed demons but will bring you home " the sun never sets on the Bertram empire "
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the 6 71 is a tried and proven engine with tons of parts available. they were used on everything from trucks and boats to generators and pumps. the hull is a classic. keep us posted.
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A 6-71 and 6-92 are two separate engines. If it’s an in-line 6 cylinder it’s a 6-71. A 6-92 is a V-6 configuration. If the engines haven’t been ran in 20 years I would find a where are you to turn the engine over by hand to make sure it’s not locked up. It probably be a good idea to pull the injectors and get some fogging oil on the cylinders and to make sure the injector rack moves freely. It would be damn near impossible to make a list of everything that you would need to get a boat going that has been sitting that long. Fortunately the Detroit engines are easy to service but, they have been out of production for quite a few years. The generator, if mounted in the lazarette, is probably beyond repair.
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IF you could find someone to do that I'd look for someone outside of the US that's willing to for a cheaper rate. Most shops in the US charge $100 per hr or more so you probably wont get a capable mechanic for less than $2500 per week if that cheap.
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Port 6-71. Starboard 6-92 you got to do what you got to do.
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For the info on engines and gears join boatdiesel.com. Tons of info there. And yes mechanics do fly to other countries to do work but not cheap and they will only do so with iron clad payment method.
6-71's are simple enough that if you load up on literature you could probably get what needs to be done with a local mechanic who is savvy and open minded enough to read up on the Detroit's and how to service them.

As for everything else just be resourceful and don't do anything that is unsafe for marine standards. So no home handyman type fixes. You will regret anything not done right.
Last thing I will add is boat was built when things were of higher quality and built more to last. So anything not working may just need some service/cleaning/force start. When you have enough posts to do so please add pictures.
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I have a 1982 with 6V92’s and M20’s. I hope someone has at least started these in the last 20 years. Boat diesel will give you tons of info on these! If you have a specific question don’t hesitate to ask. Good luck it’s a great boat!
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Consider shipping it to a yard in the States for a complete refit.

Is Kenya safe to travel to?
Violent Crime
Carjacking, home invasions, kidnappings and robberies occur, including during daylight hours and in neighbourhoods normally considered safe. Tourists have been the target of carjacking, robberies and kidnappings while travelling to or from the international airports in Nairobi and Mombasa.

Surrounded by the most dangerous places worldwide. Go with Plan A, find a competent yard here in the States.
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Welcome. There is a thread on here regarding one down in Central America that may be helpful regarding materials and methods when access to supplies is limited.
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This should be interesting. Pics plz
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Welcome to THT Adilpekee! And congratulations on your new money pit!

I spend quite a bit of time on the other side of the continent from you and you are in for a challenge but it's not insurmountable.

You will need to find two different specialties, an older diesel mechanic familiar with Detroits and a general boat "mechanic" familiar with the wide variety of systems on your boat. There are still some diesel wrenches around who can work on your engines but they are aging out of the industry. Finding one willing to travel to Kenya might be tough.

You're on the right track though, multiple visits to evaluate and build a parts list then follow up visits when all the parts are there (they won't be!) will eventually get it done.

Until this virus situation runs it's course begin building relationships and establishing freight forwarding channels to get and keep the parts flowing you're going to need. PM me and I can give you a few companies that can help from here in the states.
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