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Old 03-07-2020, 04:26 AM
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I’ve noticed almost all threads I have read regarding batteries mounted under the center console do not have them in battery boxes. The black plastic type. Why not?

They provide protection from dirt on the battery and also contains any acid that may escape. The also keep any stray objects from touching the battery terminals.

Any rationale for not using them?
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The only negative off the top of my head would be that they trap moisture. Water and electricity are never a good mix. Most new batteries today are sealed so unless you don’t have them anchored properly leaking isn’t a problem. I’ve really never had a battery get dirty on my boat. Mine get changed every 36 months. A box would just be an added pain to deal with when I R&R.
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I have both batteries in boxes in the console. The rational of limiting movement and not having something short the terminals were the main reasons. With lids on its pretty tidy as all wires are routed out the side of the box tops.

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I myself an not a fan of battery boxes , and removed them in favor of trays with restraints , the terminals are covered to prevent any unwanted contact
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I have found you can limit movement with a tray. When I had batteries near the transom they were in boxes. When I moved them to the console used trays. Since people can’t sit on the front console seat without flying around, assumed batteries take the same bouncing.
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I found a plastic storage tub that fit my 4 group 24's perfectly. Contained any mess, breathed just fine and kept the batts from sliding around.
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A tray makes for easier maintenance of a conventional lead acid battery. One where you have to check electrolyte. Make sure your positive terminal has a cover. I would not use this set up if it were in a splash zone. In a console, it works fine.
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because this would be a real pain in the ass with boxes...

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IMO, much easier to check terminal connections if battery is not in a box. Still should have a flexible terminal cover to protect against accidental shorts.

Battery boxes went away when sealed batteries became the norm and consequently, less fumes and leakage to worry about and contain. Also, it was a pain to replace a battery that was in a box in tight spaces.
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Never seen any battery boxes I like. Seems they all bend the cables, stressing the lugs and studs.
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
because this would be a real pain in the ass with boxes...

that’s pretty sharp. Homemade or commercially available?
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Easy access in 5-10 seconds for each battery. They keep dry and always look new. No reason for the cables to come loose so I check and spray them once a year and change every three years.



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Batteries in boxes have an inch or more of space to move so there is potential for compounded shock loading. Think battery coming down when boat is going up. Loose stuff breaks.
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I used battery boxes with my gp 27s for years, what I did not like:
battery would slide around so I had to make up shims to keep it from moving
battery box strap always got loose over time
this just made it a pain to maintain batteries...I switched to trays with secure hold downs (just like what you’d use in a vehicle) and insulators for the terminals and like that much better.
Only advantage of boxes is it would protect the engine compartment from acid if one exploded.

If some company makes a box that:
fits the standard size(s) batteries exactly
has a solid hold down method
Then I might go back to boxes, as they are they are more trouble than they are worth the way they are made now....


Battery boxes....

tray with rubber insulators....

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It is possible gas could collect in the box and boom. I use boxes with the battery is in the weather.
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If you have the luxury of real estate, boxes are fine. My batteries are in port and starboard cabinets tucked up against the transom. Having them in battery boxes would make access a PITA. Just getting them out of the trays is an ordeal due to lack of space
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Originally Posted by K-dawg View Post
Never seen any battery boxes I like. Seems they all bend the cables, stressing the lugs and studs.
Yup
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Originally Posted by fireisland1 View Post
It is possible gas could collect in the box and boom. I use boxes with the battery is in the weather.
every commercial battery box I have ever seen is vented. Lead acid batteries give off hydrogen gas when they are charged. Hydrogen is lighter than air and float up out of the vented covers.
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If the battery is in an isolated compartment, designed to hold batteries and nothing else, I have no issue with a tray and the battery being uncovered.

Anywhere else, BATTERY BOX. Would never happen to a THT Hero but for the mortals like me, I can picture something like a forgotten screw driver or other random metal object figuring out a way to somehow get itself from + to - with one end still touching the +.
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Battery boxes are designed to prevent water from flooding them, even if submerged. If the boat were flooded (rogue wave, broken thru hull etc), the terminals would remain dry and the battery functional. On a tray, a flooded compartment means no power to motor, vhf, etc. A well designed battery box is a safety feature. I always have all batteries in a strapped down battery box.

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