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Old 01-21-2020, 04:01 AM
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My brother seldom listens to any advice from me, but he keeps askeing for it.

He has a 2003 Post 46 sportfisherman in New England; it's now stored inside.

From the land of ice and snow, he called me at 4:35AM to ask me whether I thought he should also have his cockpit re-gelcoated or painted when he has his non-skid redone in two weeks. He said that he thought the cost would be about equal either way (about $10,000 including non-skid, hatches, tackle stations, bulkheads, and all vertical surfaces).

His cockpit, last time I looked, had the usual dings and cracks you would expect in a fishing boat of that age, but, overall, it didn't look bad. But, my brother is like that old television detective Monk.

I'm not getting in to the middle of this one: I'm not sure he's ready for dealing with AwlCraft or AlexSeal in this cockpit (he's never owned a painted boat) and I'm not sure whether the gelcoat result will satisfy him either.
I figure that there's safety in numbers and distance.

Anybody with actual experience on this kind of refit?

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And you answered your phone at 4:35?
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I had the cockpit re done on my 42 Bertram in 2011 with Awlgrip and it still looks great. The floor is the only area that will need some work in the next year or so. I also had the bulkhead, sides, and tackle center/freezer redone. If he is getting all that done for 10K that's a deal. I spent more then double that ( I am also in New England).
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From the land of snow and ice where it was 61 degrees last weekend I'm not really sure what your question is. If your asking opinions about price I would say $10k sounds high.
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Put it this way: It's only money. A year from now he's going to call you back at 4:35a.m. and tell you how he wishes he had the rest of the boat painted at the same time.
tell him to go for it. He won't regret it. You'll be the hero.
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If he paints his cockpit he will be disappointed in the rest of the bosat. All or nothing.
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I didn't go to the extent that your brother wants to go but I repainted the non-skid of one of my boats with a two part epoxy paint and it came out good and held up for over 10 years later until I sold it. And I never covered this boat.
I say go for it. Maybe next year your brother will redo another area of the boat.
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From the land of snow and ice where it was 61 degrees last weekend I'm not really sure what your question is. If your asking opinions about price I would say $10k sounds high.
No. It's not about price (I think that the price sounds too low, but that's his business. I had a 54 cockpit painted and redone three years ago: cost $23,000, including refinish of teak deck).

His question is: gelcoat or Awlcraft (gel coat or paint)?
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No. It's not about price (I think that the price sounds too low, but that's his business. I had a 54 cockpit painted and redone three years ago: cost $23,000, including refinish of teak deck).

His question is: gelcoat or Awlcraft (gel coat or paint)?
I believe the concensus will be paint.
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I'm thinking Awlgrip and not Awlcraft 2000. Isn't Awlgrip much harder and durable?
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I'm thinking Awlgrip and not Awlcraft 2000. Isn't Awlgrip much harder and durable?
You could be right; my brother asked me the same question.
He thought that Awlcraft would be better because of ease of repair.
He sometimes bottom fishes with this boat.

I'm looking for some info from people with first-hand experience,
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If he paints his cockpit he will be disappointed in the rest of the bosat. All or nothing.
You could be right. He's that kind of guy. Other than the cockpit, the rest of his boat looks great. He is a detail/wax fanatic. Why he would consider re-gelcoat, is beyond me. I don't believe that it will turn out as well as paint, but he wasn't satisfied with my answer, so I posted this.

I think that the $10,000 estimate he has is way too low for repairs and paint/gelcoat, and I told him so.
He knows that I had a 54-foot sportfish completely repainted with Awlgrip (hull, topsides, cockpit, flybridge, engine room, and bilges) in 2016. It cost $121,000, with the cockpit work amounting to about $23,000 of that.

May some of you guys have some experiences that may convince him.



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