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Old 01-20-2020, 11:35 AM
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Bought a new boat, now need to sell old boat but don't know how to price. Boat is in good shape, vhf, gps, outriggers, salt and fresh wash down, stereo, original ocean pro 225, trailer needs some work. any advice on estimating fair price would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by lon View Post
Bought a new boat, now need to sell old boat but don't know how to price. Boat is in good shape, vhf, gps, outriggers, salt and fresh wash down, stereo, original ocean pro 225, trailer needs some work. any advice on estimating fair price would be appreciated.
The motor is oftentimes going to be the most valuable part of a boat like this, but you havent repowered so thats out.

All the options on a boat like this(vhf, outriggers, wash down, stereo, etc).....you're just not talking about extra value added for that on a used boat like this.

I doubt the motor is worth much since you are talking about a now 22 year old motor. So that leaves the hull....and it just comes down to what decent shape 23 foot hulls in your area sell for?

I won't throw out an exact number, but it's going to be a pretty small number considering you don't have a valuable OB as part of the package and in a package like this that's usually what is propping up the price to be a non-trivial amount(for those who have repowered).
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thanks for your insight
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10 to 12k tops if there is a trailer....
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I sold a 1981 23 hull with a nice trailer, no motor,no console, transom had been closed in and had an Armstrong bracket. Nice paint, no rigging, bare hull with floor and not much else for around $7500. Maybe gives you a starting point and add in motor and rigging.
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I bought a good condition 23 seacraft with
a new f250 with 80hrs on it for 18k
my thinking was I was buying an almost
brand new motor for that price, that happened
to come with a nice boat attatched.
otherwise I would have only paid 5-7k for hull
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I just bought a not vastly different rig - '99 Seapro 235, low hours with OX 66 Power, big nice full cover, trailer in great shape with new tires and LED lights - she needed a little spit shining and a very few maintenance items caught up by the far the best condition used rig I've ever purchased with the only downer being stupid helm chairs in lieu of a leaning post. Anyways 13K was the number and after 4 months or so of shopping (Houston area) this was pretty right priced.

Relative to condition you have a more desirable hull, a less desirable (to many anyways) motor and by your own admission the trailer needs work...someone specifically seeking a Seacraft might think was the bargain of a lifetime at 15K....someone with budget and ambition for a 20+ year old 23' center console would think 10K might be more in line.
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Get a boat dealer that does consignments to appraise.
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Originally Posted by lon View Post
Bought a new boat, now need to sell old boat but don't know how to price. Boat is in good shape, vhf, gps, outriggers, salt and fresh wash down, stereo, original ocean pro 225, trailer needs some work. any advice on estimating fair price would be appreciated.
where are you located? Look around craigslist, boat trader, facebook marketplace. See if you can find another functional 23 seacraft center console for under 15k. I bet you have a hard time.

Fix your trailer, so that's not an issue during the sale.
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Need pictures.

Where are you located?
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Greatly depends on:
1. Condition
2. What’s been re done

I’d all original fuel tank, transom, deck etc and water intruded.....you know it’s worth a lot less.
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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
I just bought a not vastly different rig - '99 Seapro 235, low hours with OX 66 Power, big nice full cover, trailer in great shape with new tires and LED lights - she needed a little spit shining and a very few maintenance items caught up by the far the best condition used rig I've ever purchased with the only downer being stupid helm chairs in lieu of a leaning post. Anyways 13K was the number and after 4 months or so of shopping (Houston area) this was pretty right priced.

Relative to condition you have a more desirable hull, a less desirable (to many anyways) motor and by your own admission the trailer needs work...someone specifically seeking a Seacraft might think was the bargain of a lifetime at 15K....someone with budget and ambition for a 20+ year old 23' center console would think 10K might be more in line.
I'm a confirmed seacraft fanboy and I agree with all of this post.
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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
I just bought a not vastly different rig - '99 Seapro 235, low hours with OX 66 Power, big nice full cover, trailer in great shape with new tires and LED lights - she needed a little spit shining and a very few maintenance items caught up by the far the best condition used rig I've ever purchased with the only downer being stupid helm chairs in lieu of a leaning post. Anyways 13K was the number and after 4 months or so of shopping (Houston area) this was pretty right priced.

Relative to condition you have a more desirable hull, a less desirable (to many anyways) motor and by your own admission the trailer needs work...someone specifically seeking a Seacraft might think was the bargain of a lifetime at 15K....someone with budget and ambition for a 20+ year old 23' center console would think 10K might be more in line.
but it is a vastly different rig. Great buy, sure...agreed. 13-15K is the number, and if you listed it tommorow, how long would it take for you to turn it and get your 13K back. Certainly not knocking your boat, but you can’t compare the seapro to a Seacraft. Atleast that is my opinion.
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Originally Posted by empty canibal View Post
but it is a vastly different rig.
Yup I dont have a Johnnyrude on the back

23 Seacraft is a champ in that size range but same same as everything else is subject to what the market will yield. They dont seem to be hard to sell, I'm sure the OP can move his for a reasonable price.
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Originally Posted by lon View Post
Bought a new boat, now need to sell old boat but don't know how to price. Boat is in good shape, vhf, gps, outriggers, salt and fresh wash down, stereo, original ocean pro 225, trailer needs some work. any advice on estimating fair price would be appreciated.
not a lot of detail such as condition / pics
i'd venture a guess $8k
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Originally Posted by empty canibal View Post
but it is a vastly different rig. Great buy, sure...agreed. 13-15K is the number, and if you listed it tommorow, how long would it take for you to turn it and get your 13K back. Certainly not knocking your boat, but you can’t compare the seapro to a Seacraft. Atleast that is my opinion.
Just as HTJ said, I think that is a good number. I would have jumped at it two years ago before I bought my present boat.
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Fix the trailer - something that needs work, especially on an older rig adds a big unknown to the equation - a buyer is going to wonder, "will it add 10% to my cost, 20%? 30%?" - very significant if you're on a tight budget - plus it makes it difficult to just rock up with the cash and take it away.

And don't say to a buyer, "it just needs..." I always think, "if that's all it needs why didn't you just fix it? There must be something more that you're not telling me about."
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10K tops if it has no water intrusion / doesn't need tanks, wiring, etc.

Less if it does.
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Originally Posted by Clinker View Post
Fix the trailer - something that needs work, especially on an older rig adds a big unknown to the equation - a buyer is going to wonder, "will it add 10% to my cost, 20%? 30%?" - very significant if you're on a tight budget - plus it makes it difficult to just rock up with the cash and take it away.

And don't say to a buyer, "it just needs..." I always think, "if that's all it needs why didn't you just fix it? There must be something more that you're not telling me about."
Very sound wisdom here - I fully expect any used boat to have a couple or 3 $100/Saturday afternoon DIY repairs lurking here and there but as a seller you have to value these at haul it to the dealer cost and that can get out of proportion in a hurry on a <20K purchase. Water pump/lower unit service for me is $50 and a fun couple hours, to others is $500 and significant inconvenience.


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Two years ago I sold a 1998, 25 SeaCraft for $23k twin 200 Ocean Pro engines one powerhead was blown, original fuel tank, the boat showed incredibly well, newer electronics, NSS9 one year old Seadek Bolsters and 1 year old cushions the trailer was an 8 year old Venture the brakes were toast but I put new hubs on it so it was rolling fine and went all the way from CT to SC with no issue to the new buyer.

First is the trailer needs to be able to roll to boat home to the new owner so I hate to say it spend what you need to get that fixed otherwise your cutting the number of buyers by 80%.

Depending on condition and what needs to be done I actually think it may be worth a touch more than some are saying. Once the Trailer rolls and a buyer can get it home or bring it somewhere, if all the boat really needs is a new engine it's a pretty marketable boat. The hull has a great reputation lots of guys in Fl would like to have it throw off the engine and put on a Zuke and some mascara and now you have a proven hull with new power.

If the boat does not have any transom, floor or fuel tank issues, trailer works, you can take it for a sea trial, it's buffed out and pretty, everything works I'd put $15,000 on it some people may laugh maybe even $18k if it shows nice, you know you're going to negotiate down, I believe $12k sale price or a touch North for sure.

I think for a working 23 with no issues on a functional trailer $10k is way too low too many SeaCraft cult members out there you will sell it in a few days around $10k

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