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Old 01-02-2020, 11:06 AM
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So I am getting ready to finally pull the trigger on re-powering my Bennington Pontoon. I've been back and forth debating on what motor to invest in. Right now my local dealer is offering an extra 2 years of warranty on the Yamaha, which would make it a total of a 5 year warranty. Evinrude is offering a 7 year warranty on the E-tech.

My Hull is rated for 75HP, which is why I am looking into these two motors.

Things I am taking into consideration the following:
- Yamaha is a lighter motor on a smaller power head
- E-tec will have better hole shot.
I really do like the self winterizing functions of the E-tec's, because I plan to keep the boat on a lift and fish throughout the winter months. Another per is the lower maintenance schedule.

I'd like some advise on the pro's and cons of going with either one. My pontoon is primarily used for fishing year round. I'll typically have three to four 200 pound plus adults on the boat plus coolers and fishing gear. We fish mostly bass, striped bass and crappie.

I've read that the E-tecs tend to not like running at trolling speeds compared to the 4 strokes because it can foul up the plugs?
Is there anything in the fine print on these warranties that is not covered that I should be aware of? Are there any known issues with either one of these motors that I should be aware of? It's a pontoon boat, so I am not expecting it to be a speed demon. If I get 20 MPH with good fuel economy and reliability I will be happy.

Is there anything else that I should take into consideration before making my decision?


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All of my small Etec experience is from friends that have small Etecs - haven't heard a single complaint. I would very rightfully expect a 75 Etec to run circles around an F70 Yamaha and I think any weight difference would be a non sequitur or a pontoon.
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If you are going to have 3 to 4 200 lb adults and all the gear, the bigger E-TEC 75 motor will serve you better. The E-TEC 75 is a detuned 90 whereas the F70 is a hopped up F60 making 70 because its allowed to spin 300 RPM faster than the 60. The Yamaha motor most equivalent to the E-TEC 75 would be the Yamaha F75.

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Originally Posted by oomph View Post
So I am getting ready to finally pull the trigger on re-powering my Bennington Pontoon. I've been back and forth debating on what motor to invest in. Right now my local dealer is offering an extra 2 years of warranty on the Yamaha, which would make it a total of a 5 year warranty. Evinrude is offering a 7 year warranty on the E-tech.

My Hull is rated for 75HP, which is why I am looking into these two motors.

Things I am taking into consideration the following:
- Yamaha is a lighter motor on a smaller power head
- E-tec will have better hole shot.
I really do like the self winterizing functions of the E-tec's, because I plan to keep the boat on a lift and fish throughout the winter months. Another per is the lower maintenance schedule.

I'd like some advise on the pro's and cons of going with either one. My pontoon is primarily used for fishing year round. I'll typically have three to four 200 pound plus adults on the boat plus coolers and fishing gear. We fish mostly bass, striped bass and crappie.

I've read that the E-tecs tend to not like running at trolling speeds compared to the 4 strokes because it can foul up the plugs?
Is there anything in the fine print on these warranties that is not covered that I should be aware of? Are there any known issues with either one of these motors that I should be aware of? It's a pontoon boat, so I am not expecting it to be a speed demon. If I get 20 MPH with good fuel economy and reliability I will be happy.
Is there anything else that I should take into consideration before making my decision?
thanks!
Etecs can run at trolling speeds all day long and it will not foul the plugs. That's a leftover from old school 2 strokes. My previous marina was 45 minutes of no-wake to get to open water, so every outing was a minimum of 90 minutes at 500 rpm. The plus were changed every 3 years as per the published maintenance schedule, long before they had a chance to become fouled.
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Yeah, lots of the dealers that I have called have been steering me towards a 4 Stroke over the E-tec. Claiming they see a lot more of them in the shop and that the support from the manufacturer to the dealers isn't as good and responsive as Yamaha's.
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Which of the two models do you want?
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Yeah, lots of the dealers that I have called have been steering me towards a 4 Stroke over the E-tec. Claiming they see a lot more of them in the shop and that the support from the manufacturer to the dealers isn't as good and responsive as Yamaha's.
Probably not the 75/90 - they tend to be pretty bulletproof. I bought a 90 new in 2005 and sold it to a guy I know (complete with the boat it was on) in 2012 - nearly 15 years old and its never even failed to start first time let alone have anything wrong.
and yes, it will idle all day long. If you want to look at a four stroke, Id be looking at the Merc 75 - its a smoth, quiet and punchy engine.
And anyone who sells anything other than what you want to buy will give you advice that should be taken with a pinch of salt!
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I am a big fan of Yamaha......
But the 75hp E-Tec is a beast of a little motor and would be great on a toon! I have maintained and used my brothers for many years and it has been a great motor...
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We troll all day with our Etecs and have never had any issues at all.....the also burn much less fuel at trolling speeds due to the stratified injection under 1500 rpm's.....There would be no comparison in torque either.....The Etec 75 is a very solid motor.....as in regards to service, our boat is also on a lift, and that's one of the reasons we went with the Etecs....3 year 300 hour service intervals....going on 12 years and 850 hours now.....between the two we've replaced a fuel pump, a crank position sensor and one exhaust adaptor plate......btw, we had 4 stroke yamaha's on the same boat before we repowered....torque does matter.

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Probably not the 75/90 - they tend to be pretty bulletproof. I bought a 90 new in 2005 and sold it to a guy I know (complete with the boat it was on) in 2012 - nearly 15 years old and its never even failed to start first time let alone have anything wrong.
and yes, it will idle all day long. If you want to look at a four stroke, Id be looking at the Merc 75 - its a smoth, quiet and punchy engine.
And anyone who sells anything other than what you want to buy will give you advice that should be taken with a pinch of salt!
Yeah one of the dealers happened to sell both Yamaha and E-tec. That said, I think for my application the E-tec maybe the better choice due to 7 year warranty currently being offered and the better torque for taking heavy crew around in. Has anyone had any issues dealing with warranty claims? Is there anything in the fine print that I should be aware of not being covered?
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Originally Posted by oomph View Post
Yeah one of the dealers happened to sell both Yamaha and E-tec. That said, I think for my application the E-tec maybe the better choice due to 7 year warranty currently being offered and the better torque for taking heavy crew around in. Has anyone had any issues dealing with warranty claims? Is there anything in the fine print that I should be aware of not being covered?
Just make sure it's a 7 year BRP warranty......many manufacturers (including Evinrude) used to have 3-5 years manufacturer warranty and the rest would be covered by a third party, which left alot to be desired....I'd go on etecownersgroup.com or ask your local dealer for the warranty information. Also, the reason the dealers push the 4 stroke is because of the service....they'd be stupid not to..they make alot more on annual service and winterization than they do on XD oil.
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Evinrude's warranty is factory. I don't buy the comments about poor warranty support. By all accounts I've read, Evinrude has gone above and beyond on handling claims. Perhaps the dealer wants to ensure you are in a few times a year for a $300 service.

The self winterization is cool....and perfect for your use.
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Evinrude's warranty is factory. I don't buy the comments about poor warranty support. By all accounts I've read, Evinrude has gone above and beyond on handling claims. Perhaps the dealer wants to ensure you are in a few times a year for a $300 service.

The self winterization is cool....and perfect for your use.

yes, I had the same suspicions about that too. 4 strokes require more maintenance and winterization which is to their benefit. Ultimately it's best to get feedback like this from real world owners on their experience with the motor and company.
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I've had Yamahas (and etecs) in the past and currently run an etec 115 (lift kept). They have all been reliable but the Yamahas were way more expensive to maintain. I've had the current etec for almost 3 years with no issues at all so far. Getting ready to do the first maintenance in the next couple months.

I love the torque and responsiveness of the etec. It's nice for holeshots and staying in plane in rougher water. Also had 2 work boats, exactly the same but one had etecs, one had Yamahas. The etec boat ran circles around the other one.
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In this situation the etec is superior.
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Love etecs. Own one and want more. That being said, Id go 4 stroke. Probably not Yamaha, but Id go Yamaha over an etec. Their noise at idle while not loud is not as soothing as a 4 stroke.
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I've had both and have no complaints either way. I did have a EMM go bad on the etec (my fault) turned battery switch from 1 to 2 with engine on. I had purchased the engine used and out of warranty and Evinrude sent a new EMM for 50% off, don't know if Yamaha would have done the same, never had an issue with it. In your case I would go Etec.
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Etec 75 is one hell of a good engine, Far less annual maintenance & cost too!
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Originally Posted by oomph View Post
Yeah, lots of the dealers that I have called have been steering me towards a 4 Stroke over the E-tec. Claiming they see a lot more of them in the shop and that the support from the manufacturer to the dealers isn't as good and responsive as Yamaha's.
Yep, they'll tell you that as they write up the invoice for your 20 hour service, and 100 hour service, and anode replacements on the Yamaha...

See if you can get a demo ride with both for comparison, then decide.
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You can't and won't go wrong with the Etec.
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